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Jun705, 07:23 AM

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Let's say you have two items that lie next to eachother sharing a surface. A is 10 degrees C, and B is 10 degrees C. If this system sits there until A is down to perhaps 5 degrees C, does that automatically mean that B is now 5 degrees C? If not, why is it so? It would probably depend on whether or not both A and B were made of the same material? 2) One often says that electricity takes the way of least resistance, but if a wire splits up to form let's say 5 parallel wires of varying resistance, doesn't the electricity need to flow through all 5 in order to find out which one is the easiest way? And if it then had some kind of "intelligence" it could  based on that  then choose the way of least resistance? 


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Jun705, 07:47 AM

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I can't remember all the formula that this invloves (it's been 1718 yrs since I did the theory).
I=V/R I believe it's something like R1 = first resistor R2 = second resistor I1 = current going through the first resistor I2 = current going through the second resistor I1 = Vtotal/R1 I2 = Vtotal/R2 It's kind of like a big pipe of water leading to 2 smaller pipes (one bigger than the other). The smaller pipes will allow different amounts of water though depending how wide the pipes are (how much resistance they offer). A smaller pipe will give a greater resistance and so there in less water (current) allowed through. p.s. Ohm's Law states that the current in a conductor is directly proportional to the potential difference and inversly proportional to the resistance provided the temperature and pressure remain constant. 


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Jun705, 07:55 AM

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However, if the objects weren't contained then the energy from the 10C object will heat up the surrounding area as well as the 10C object whereas the 10C would have to wait a little bit before it could absorb the energy to heat itself up. I'm sure there are formulas that would explain it a lot better than I. 


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Jun705, 08:29 AM

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Temp flow and electrical flow
[tex]\Delta Q_A = m_A c_A \Delta T_A[/tex] where m and c are the mass and specific heat capacity of A. This energy is then transfered to be absorbed by B: [tex] \Delta Q_B = m_B c_B \Delta T_B[/tex] If no heat loss anywhere, [tex] \Delta Q_A = \Delta Q_B [/tex] [tex]m_A c_A \Delta T_A = m_B c_B \Delta T_B [/tex] What this means is that only if both masses and specific heats are identical to each other would the change in temperature be the same, meaning A would have lowered by the same amount that B has increased. If any of the other quantites are different, they need not change temperatures by the identical amount. It also means that under that situation (m and c are different) left to their own devices, the equilibrium temperature that both will reach will not be the "middle" temperature, which is 0C in your example. Zz. 


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So what you're saying is that even through the wires with the highest resistance there would be some flow, just less and less the more resistance? I've always thought that only the wire with the smallest resistance would conduct, and the others would be "ignored"...thanks! Thanks to you too ZapperZ!



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Consider a current I, making a choice between two resistors R1 and R2. Let's say that a current I1 flows through R1 and the rest, namely I  I1, flows through R2. The heat produced at each conductor is given by Joule's equation, [itex]H = I^2R[/itex]. So, the total heat produced among the two resistors is : [tex]H = I_1^2 R_1 + (I  I_1)^2R_2 = I_1^2(R_1 + R_2)  2I_1(IR_2) + I^2R_2 [/tex] We want this total heat to be minimum, and we find the value of I1 that minimizes this. Basic calculus gives us : [tex]\frac{dH}{dI_1} = 2I_1(R_1+R_2)  2IR_2 = 0 [/tex] [tex]=>\frac{I_1}{I} = \frac {R_2}{R_1+R_2} [/tex] So, the current through the R2 is given by [tex]I_2 = I  I_1 = \frac {IR_1}{R_1+R_2} [/tex] Thus : [itex]I_1/I_2 = R_2/R_1 [/itex] In other words, the current through each resistor (in a parallel setup) is inversely proportional to the value of its resistance. 


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