Aaron Sakulich: Could you talk a little about where you believe your research has led you?
David Jacobs: Well, what people began to describe early on, even before I began to do my own hypnosis, was that they'd see these weird looking babies, that were sort of half-human, half-alien. Some looked quite human, some looked quite alien. They'd see them as toddlers, as little kids, and eventually we uncovered many many accounts of seeing older kids, adolescents, young adults, and as adults. And we would see them therefore in different roles onboard the ship; helping with abductions, doing this or doing that, depending on their age. And one of the great questions we always had was, if this is happening, and this is a capital I, if this is happening, why is it happening? What's the point here? It didn't seem to be a study or experiment, it seemed to be more of a program. It was almost assembly-line fashion. People being abducted over and over again, seeing these things that happened. It really was industrial, almost. And it was happening around the world, so you knew right away that there was a lot of time and energy being put into this program. As a program, it is therefore goal-directed. It has a reason, and it started at sometime. You figure if it's goal directed, there's a beginning, a middle and an end. If the goal is getting resources, the end will be when they use up all the resources. There's got to be a beginning, a middle and an end to most programs. And this one seemed to have that. And from time to time, people would have these experiences, and the first time I heard it I said "forget it", but I heard it enough times to take note. They'd be shown a screen, and on the screen would be, for example, and American style picnic. Bunch of people standing around, barbecue going, some people playing ball, throwing a ball back and forth, they'd see it on this screen. Maybe there's other abductees with them, that are seeing this too. In their minds, they hear somebody speaking to them, who says "can you tell the difference between us and you?" And the people will look at the screen, see these people standing around like everything's fine, and they'll say "no, I can't. Everybody looks the same to me, what are you talking about?" They're puzzled that this question is even being asked, because the screen shows just regular people. And the voice will go "see, isn't that wonderful? Isn't that great? Soon we will all be together. We'll all be living together, here, essentially, you can't tell the difference, and we'll just be here, and it'll all be wonderful." I began to hear that so many times that I began to realize that these hybrids, the ones who look more human than anything else, and who look like 'us', as they are (and there's a reason for this, and I've sort of discovered how they do this) this might be an integration program into this society for reasons we cannot understand.
