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Pat Robertson and the power of free speech

http://www.comcast.net/news/national...11/261991.html

Once again, we have Pat Roberston in the news claiming doom and gloom to any of those who go against religious teachings. But hey, it IS America where you can express what you want. Good thing our media is there to catch what he has to say. Do you think he is the only one who doesn't realize how crazy he sounds?

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 Quote by Kerrie http://www.comcast.net/news/national...11/261991.html Once again, we have Pat Roberston in the news claiming doom and gloom to any of those who go against religious teachings. But hey, it IS America where you can express what you want. Good thing our media is there to catch what he has to say. Do you think he is the only one who doesn't realize how crazy he sounds?
Unfortunately he is not the only one.

I wonder how many residents of that school district will move since they are no longer under God's protection

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 Quote by Skyhunter I wonder how many residents of that school district will move since they are no longer under God's protection
If they all move away, I'm moving there.

Pat Robertson and the power of free speech

 Quote by Kerrie Once again, we have Pat Roberston in the news claiming doom and gloom to any of those who go against religious teachings. But hey, it IS America where you can express what you want. Good thing our media is there to catch what he has to say. Do you think he is the only one who doesn't realize how crazy he sounds?
Sadly too many people by into that ********.

Roberston is to religion, as Bush is to government.

 Recognitions: Gold Member Oddly enough, I finally found out what the 700 club was after reading that article last night. I thought it was some sort of congressional show.

 Quote by Pengwuino Oddly enough, I finally found out what the 700 club was after reading that article last night. I thought it was some sort of congressional show.
If any religious organization deserves to lose it's tax-exempt status, the 700 club is it. They are an extrememly political/religious organization.

 Recognitions: Gold Member Staff Emeritus I can't say that I have followed Pat Robertson's words of wisdom over the last decade or so , but has he always made these sort of outlandish comments? Or is it just more recently?

 Quote by Kerrie I can't say that I have followed Pat Robertson's words of wisdom over the last decade or so , but has he always made these sort of outlandish comments? Or is it just more recently?
He always has on his television show, although he did change hhis tone when he ran for president.

 Admin He has been making outrageous and un-Christian statements for more than 3 decades since I have watched him on and off. http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/revpat.htm http://www.cygnus-study.com/pagepat.html - title of the webpage is a bit snide - but the quotes, some going back to the 80's, have attribtion. Basically, IMO, Robertson's in it for the power and the money, and his own personal glory.

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 Quote by Pat Robertson I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God. You just rejected him from your city.
Don't turn to God? I don't remember that line from the bible.

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I'm sorry I missed Pastor Robertson's clarification.
Later Thursday, Robertson issued a statement saying he was simply trying to point out that "our spiritual actions have consequences."
 Quote by Pat Robertson God is tolerant and loving, but we can't keep sticking our finger in his eye forever.
I know that eventually I would lose it and just lash out. I guess Reverend Robertson figures God is a lot like us.

here's some more from Bill Blum's latest anti-empire report:
 Ahmed Omar Abu Ali is a 24-year-old American citizen from Virginia who went to study at a university in Saudi Arabia. He was arrested by the Saudis, interrogated, and confessed to being part of an al Qaeda plot to assassinate George W. Bush while the president was visiting the country. Abu Ali is now being held in the United States by federal authorities. His defense attorneys and his family have contended that any statements he made in Saudi custody were obtained through torture and should thus not be allowed into evidence. Two doctors who examined Abu Ali found evidence that he was tortured in Saudi Arabia, including scars on his back consistent with having been whipped, defense lawyers have said in court papers. The prosecution has argued that he was not tortured, and the judge presiding over the trial, which began October 31, has agreed to allow Abu Ali's confession into evidence. Abu Ali confessed to the Saudis about conspiring to carry out other terrorist acts as well, but I'd like to focus here on the alleged assassination plot. Law enforcement sources cited by the Washington Post have said the plot against Bush, "never advanced beyond the talking stage". If that is indeed the case, and even assuming there was no torture involved, then I'd raise the question of whether a "crime", worthy of punishment -- and Abu Ali faces up to life in prison on the assassination charge alone -- was committed. Or does it fall in the category of a "thought crime" made famous of course in Orwell's "1984"? Someone should perhaps tell the Justice Department that "1984" was meant to be a warning, not a how-to guide. Who amongst us has not entertained fantasies of horrible and nasty things befalling our dear George W.? I've imagined myself as the perpetrator of actions taking care of the entire Bushgang all at once, including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rice, Powell, Bolton and about a dozen other neo-con stars, all instantly falling victim to ... well, let's leave it at that on this FBI-patrolled Internet. But I've shared such pleasant thoughts with others in person. And they've shared theirs with me. And I'm sure that a million other Americans have had similar thoughts. Should we be indicted? How about His High Holiness Rev. Pat Robertson who publicly called for the assassination of Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez? He did it in all seriousness. Speaking to thousands of people. Without being tortured.
yeah, how was that not a thought crime?
here's other stuff from that article that i thought was pretty shocking
 In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. He has also said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

 Just when I thought that the U.S. Chistian movement had reached bottom in terms of realism and practicality, Pat Robertson comes out with his latest remarks. Now these "remarks" can be taken in either of two ways: either he is suffering from a form of psychosis, or he is making these inflammatory and "threatening" statements to rally his base for more financial support. Literally, he could be mentally ill. Such statements are common in various psychotic states. He should be immediately tested. I mean, even if he made a statement about UFO's were coming to take these people away, supporters could still argue he is of sound mind. His statement went too far, and also follows comments he made recently calling for the aasassination of President Chavez. As a man of his position and influence, I do not believe the U.S. government and FBI can sit idle and allow such a still influential figure over several million Americans to make such threatening statements, which one could construe, as a "directive" to radical religious right operatives to take action against this town and school board. His statements certainly now have jeophardized the peace and security of that town, and is coming real close to apparent TV directives used by bin Laden to carry out violence. The Feds and doctors must take a good look at Pat Robertson.
 Who's pat robertson and why does this matter?

 Quote by Smurf Who's pat robertson and why does this matter?
He's a terrorist the US gov't are sheltering who called for the assassination of a foreign elected leader. He's also a religious nut. (To be precise he claims to be religious. It is grossly unfair on genuinely religious people to actually give him that label)

 If he is representative of God, the poor, meek and suffering are headed for a Fall.

 Quote by Smurf Who's pat robertson and why does this matter?
Pat Robertson is one of the early Televangelists who use television to promote their version of religion, while accumulating personal fortunes from those who donate money to his 'religious' media empire.

Robertson started the Christian Coalition, a political organization devoted to undermining the freedom of religion and separation of church and state.

IMO, Robertson has misappropriated the term 'Christianity' using for his own perversion of religion that is nothing more than 'materialism'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_700_Club

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Coalition

He has used some of the donations for charity work, I question the integrity of his charities.
 Through his charitable organization, Operation Blessing International, Robertson claims to have spent $1.2 million bringing aid to refugees in Rwanda. from Wiki - as compared to a personal fortune estimated between$200 million and \$1 billion USD according to Greg Palast.