Adiabatic Processes: Why does this equation use constant volume and not constant pressure?

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abdossamad2003
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Why is this equation (red sign) written in constant volume and not in constant pressure?
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Because this is what counts for the internal energy of the gas.
 
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I was not convinced why internal energy should be written for heat capacity in constant volume. This process does not take place in constant volume, and if it is in constant volume, the change in internal energy must be zero.
 
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The work is done on the adiabatic system, that is, it is not in constant volume, in my opinion, constant pressure seems more reasonable
 
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What is your understanding of the effect of volume on the internal energy of an ideal gas?
 
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The effect of volume on the internal energy is meaningful only in diabatic processes, for example, when heat is added to the system at a constant volume and the internal energy increases, but in adiabatic processes, when the volume is constant, the work done on the system is zero and the incoming heat is zero, as a result of the change in energy Internal is zero.
 
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abdossamad2003 said:
The effect of volume on the internal energy is meaningful only in diabatic processes, for example, when heat is added to the system at a constant volume and the internal energy increases, but in adiabatic processes, when the volume is constant, the work done on the system is zero and the incoming heat is zero, as a result of the change in energy Internal is zero.
This is totally incorrect. Irrespective of the process, the internal energy of an ideal gas depends only on temperature, and not volume.
 
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abdossamad2003 said:
I was not convinced why internal energy should be written for heat capacity in constant volume. This process does not take place in constant volume, and if it is in constant volume, the change in internal energy must be zero.
See, e.g., here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_energy#Internal_energy_of_the_ideal_gas. ##C_V## is the coefficient of proportionality between internal energy on one hand and number of moles and temperature of the gas on the other hand.
 

1. Why does this equation use constant volume and not constant pressure?

Adiabatic processes involve no heat exchange with the surroundings, which means the internal energy of the system remains constant. When dealing with adiabatic processes, it is more common to use constant volume because it simplifies the calculations and allows for a clearer understanding of the changes in the system's energy.

2. How does using constant volume affect the equation for adiabatic processes?

Using constant volume in the equation for adiabatic processes allows us to focus on the changes in the system's internal energy without the complication of work done against a varying pressure. This simplification helps to isolate the effects of the process on the system's energy state.

3. Can adiabatic processes ever occur at constant pressure?

While adiabatic processes are typically analyzed using constant volume, they can technically occur at constant pressure as well. However, using constant volume simplifies the calculations and provides a clearer picture of the energy changes within the system.

4. How do adiabatic processes differ from isothermal processes?

Adiabatic processes involve no heat exchange with the surroundings, while isothermal processes occur at a constant temperature. This means that adiabatic processes result in changes in the system's internal energy, while isothermal processes maintain a constant internal energy state.

5. Why are adiabatic processes important in thermodynamics?

Adiabatic processes are important in thermodynamics because they allow us to study the changes in a system's internal energy without the complicating factor of heat exchange. By isolating the effects of work done on or by the system, we can better understand the behavior of gases and other systems under adiabatic conditions.

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