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Hi,
I'm encountering organic chemistry for the first time in high school and am finding it quite exciting. I'm using Morrison and Boyd as the text. I was wondering if you could test me with a few synthetic problems or product prediction that will challenge my understanding and application? I love the way complex multistep syntheses challenge my ingenuity and ability to apply knowledge of mechanisms. Throw them at me! Thanks.
The topics I've covered are alkanes (free-radical substitution, oxidation, useless as synthetic tools I'm told), alkyl hallides (nucleophillic aliphatic substitution, elimination, Corey-House coupling), alkenes and alkynes (electrophillic addition, free-radical addition, oxidative cleavage, hydroboration-oxidation, metal-actylide coupling, conjugative effects of double bonds), alicyclic compounds, benzene (electrophillic aromatic substitution). I haven't yet covered alcohols (except SN and E of OH-), carbonyls or nitro compounds. I've not covered chiral synthesis either.
I will also like to take this chance to ask if there are any good textbooks out there better than M&B at roughly the same level. The following passage by an Amazon reviewer from his review of Solomon's cannonical text strikes very close to my heart:-
"...overall the books are criminally incoherent, much due to that substance classes rather than reaction classes form the "basis" of the chapter division [note: NOT "...the basis of the 'organization'...", since organization can only exist when the reaction classes are the basis for the discussions, the one thing that brings order to organic chemistry!]; never does anyone take a more "holistic" or just "passioned" view, to actually demonstrate the monumental versatility of the concepts discussed - and exactly the same highly vital information is left out, about how to interpret or control all the hundreds of written consecutive equillibria, or what difference it makes to use the methoxide rather than the ethoxide, or why 70% phosphoric acid is used (or, indeed, what is meant by 70%), or why precisely 780K and not 775Kis needed, or how you actually carry out a single reaction and what apparatus should be used, or how you handle and isolate the substances; or how you name those compounds that show up later than the first few chapters (when all the authors suddenly forget the previous efforts of showing completeness in presentation)."
I'm thinking of getting Peter Sykes. I'm told that it's a bible of organic chemistry. Will it be good for me? Thanks again for your help.
Molu
I'm encountering organic chemistry for the first time in high school and am finding it quite exciting. I'm using Morrison and Boyd as the text. I was wondering if you could test me with a few synthetic problems or product prediction that will challenge my understanding and application? I love the way complex multistep syntheses challenge my ingenuity and ability to apply knowledge of mechanisms. Throw them at me! Thanks.
The topics I've covered are alkanes (free-radical substitution, oxidation, useless as synthetic tools I'm told), alkyl hallides (nucleophillic aliphatic substitution, elimination, Corey-House coupling), alkenes and alkynes (electrophillic addition, free-radical addition, oxidative cleavage, hydroboration-oxidation, metal-actylide coupling, conjugative effects of double bonds), alicyclic compounds, benzene (electrophillic aromatic substitution). I haven't yet covered alcohols (except SN and E of OH-), carbonyls or nitro compounds. I've not covered chiral synthesis either.
I will also like to take this chance to ask if there are any good textbooks out there better than M&B at roughly the same level. The following passage by an Amazon reviewer from his review of Solomon's cannonical text strikes very close to my heart:-
"...overall the books are criminally incoherent, much due to that substance classes rather than reaction classes form the "basis" of the chapter division [note: NOT "...the basis of the 'organization'...", since organization can only exist when the reaction classes are the basis for the discussions, the one thing that brings order to organic chemistry!]; never does anyone take a more "holistic" or just "passioned" view, to actually demonstrate the monumental versatility of the concepts discussed - and exactly the same highly vital information is left out, about how to interpret or control all the hundreds of written consecutive equillibria, or what difference it makes to use the methoxide rather than the ethoxide, or why 70% phosphoric acid is used (or, indeed, what is meant by 70%), or why precisely 780K and not 775Kis needed, or how you actually carry out a single reaction and what apparatus should be used, or how you handle and isolate the substances; or how you name those compounds that show up later than the first few chapters (when all the authors suddenly forget the previous efforts of showing completeness in presentation)."
I'm thinking of getting Peter Sykes. I'm told that it's a bible of organic chemistry. Will it be good for me? Thanks again for your help.
Molu