Calculating the force acting on a pulley in a hoist system

In summary, to determine the force on the traveling pulley of the tag line in the hoisting system, a set of equations can be solved using Cartesian coordinates. The position of the unit, the pulley attached to the tag line, and the capstan hoist need to be taken into account, along with the forces acting on each component. This will give one degree of freedom, as the unit can be at any height between the ground and 980 ft. The effects of the short line between the upper pulley and the tower can also be considered for more accurate calculations.
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In the diagram below there is a hoisting system set up to lift a 1000 lb. unit up a radio tower. This unit is used for painting towers and is lifted using a capstan hoist. As the unit is lifted, it will be tagged with a 6ft. (adjustable) tag line with a pulley that travels up the end of the load line that goes to the capstan hoist. The purpose of this is to hold the unit away from the radio tower as it raises. I am trying to get an idea of how much force the traveling pulley on the tag line will see as it travels up the load line. As the unit is raised higher, the tag line will pull the load line closer to the tower and the ground. This pull will create a sag in the load line and I am having difficulty with calculating the force on the pulley. Do you have any ideas of how to calculate the force on the tag line/tag line pulley?
Tower hoisting system_1.jpg
 
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Here is how it will look like
pulley1.png


To find out the force on the tag line you have to solve a set of equations. The best to do is in Cartesian coordinates.
Lets pick X axis going from tower to the capstan, and Y axis vertical.
The capstan is at the position (100,0)
The bridle is attached to the tower at the position (0, 980)
We can ignore the presence of the short rope between the top pulley and the tower and fix the top pulley position as (0, 980)
Let us use the following variable
The position of the unit is (x1,y1)
The position of the pulley attached to the tag line is (x2,y2)

Let's call the tension of the pull line T and the tension of the tag line as F
We have a total of 6 unknowns

The forces acting on the unit are the following:
100 lbs weight directed down
Tension T directed along the direction (0 - x1, 980 - y1)
Tension of the tag line F, directed along direction (x2 - x1, y2 - y1)

Similarly, the forces on the piece of wire touching the tag line pulley are
Tension T, acting along direction (0 - x2, 980 - y2)
Tension T acting along direction (100 - x2, 0 - y2)
Tension of the tag line, F acting along direction (x1 - x2, y1 - y2)

At equilibrium, forces have to add up to zero as vectors that gives us the following equations:
At (x1,y1) x components have to add up to zero
T *(-x1) / sqr [x1^2 + (980-y1)^2] + F * (x2 - x1) / sqrt [ (x2-x1)^2 + (y2 - y1)^2 ] = 0
For y component of the forces we have
T *(980-y1) / sqr [x1^2 + (980-y1)^2] + F * (y2 - y1) / sqrt [ (x2-x1)^2 + (y2 - y1)^2 ] - 100 lbs = 0

At the other point we have
T * ( -x2) / sqrt[ x2^2 + (980 - y2)^2] + T * (100 - x2) / sqrt [ (100 - x2)^2 + y2^2 ] + F * (x1 - x2) / sqrt [ (x2-x1)^2 + (y2 - y1)^2 ] = 0
T * (980 -y2) / sqrt[ x2^2 + (980 - y2)^2] + T * (-y2) / sqrt [ (100 - x2)^2 + y2^2 ] + F * (y1 - y2) / sqrt [ (x2-x1)^2 + (y2 - y1)^2 ] = 0

We also have the length of the tag line of 6 ft, that gives us another equation
(x1 - x2) ^2 + (y1-y2)^ = 6^2

We have 6 unknown and 5 equations, that gives us 1 degree of freedom: the unit can be at any height as long as it above ground and below 980 ft.

You can also include the effects of the short line between upper pulley and the tower. That will give you 2 more unknowns and 2 more equations.

I hope it helps.
 

1. How do you calculate the force acting on a pulley in a hoist system?

The force acting on a pulley in a hoist system can be calculated by using the formula F = m x a, where F is the force, m is the mass being lifted, and a is the acceleration of the pulley. In order to calculate this, you will also need to know the radius of the pulley and the angle of the rope as it wraps around the pulley.

2. What is the importance of calculating the force on a pulley in a hoist system?

Calculating the force on a pulley in a hoist system is important because it allows you to determine the amount of weight that can be lifted by the system. This information is crucial for ensuring the safety and efficiency of the hoist system.

3. How does the angle of the rope affect the force on a pulley in a hoist system?

The angle of the rope as it wraps around the pulley affects the force by increasing the amount of force required to lift the same weight. As the angle decreases, the force required to lift the weight increases, making the system less efficient.

4. Can the force on a pulley in a hoist system be greater than the weight being lifted?

Yes, the force on a pulley in a hoist system can be greater than the weight being lifted. This is due to the additional force needed to overcome friction and inertia in the system. It is important to account for these factors when calculating the force on a pulley.

5. How can I determine the maximum weight that can be lifted by a hoist system?

The maximum weight that can be lifted by a hoist system can be determined by dividing the maximum force that the system can generate by the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s^2). This will give you the maximum mass that can be lifted by the system. Keep in mind that this calculation does not take into account other important factors such as safety margins and wear and tear of the system.

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