Coriolis force in rotating space station

In summary: This article does a good job of summarizing the discussion, but it's not clear to me how the centrifugal force is related to the car's speed. I think you need to figure out the speed of the car in the rotating reference frame first, and then figure out how that affects the centrifugal force.
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There is a car driving with speed u opposite the direction of the rotation of the space station. ω=√(g/R) so artificial Earth gravity at R. Resulting tangential speed of station is v=√(gR) and centrifugal force is therefore mg radially out. Coriolis force is 2muxω radially in, magnitude 2mu√(g/R). The normal force thus becomes zero when centrifugal force magnitude = coriolis force magnitude or u=½v. My gut tells me it should be u=v. Is this just a case of coriolis force is not always intuitive?
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You forgot to account for the rotational motion of the car in the rotating reference frame. Bear with me...

The trick is to be careful to do all your maths in one reference frame at a time.

You want to know how fast the car has to go around the station for the normal force at the wheels to be zero.

Take the situation that the car was never spun up with the station in the first place

... in the inertial frame
- there is no normal force, no gravity, no initial speed - that's easy: it stays put.

... in the rotating frame
(Since the normal force is a real force, it will still be the same value (zero) in the rotating frame: which is the condition you want to investigate.)
- the car is acted on by (pseudo)gravity (centrifugal effect) ##F_{pg}## yet it goes in a circle at tangential speed ##v## (which means your intuition is correct): so there must be a net centripetal force ##F_{c}## too. ##F_{c} = F_{cor}-F_{pg}## ... you should be able to work it from there.

The situation you calculated, the car still goes in a circle in the rotating frame, so the normal force cannot be zero - with coriolis and centrifugal forces cancelling, the Normal force is required to provide the centripetal acceleration.

Also see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force#An_equatorial_railway
 
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1. What is the Coriolis force in a rotating space station?

The Coriolis force is the apparent force that acts on objects in a rotating reference frame, such as a rotating space station. It is caused by the rotation of the frame and the inertia of the object. It can be observed as a deflection of the object's path from what would be expected in a non-rotating frame.

2. How does the Coriolis force affect objects in a rotating space station?

The Coriolis force can cause objects to follow curved paths or move in a direction perpendicular to their intended motion. This is due to the fact that the Coriolis force is perpendicular to the direction of motion and the axis of rotation of the space station.

3. Can the Coriolis force be felt in a rotating space station?

No, the Coriolis force is not directly felt by humans in a rotating space station. However, it can affect the motion of objects and can be observed through the curved paths they take.

4. How is the Coriolis force related to the rotation of the Earth?

The Coriolis force is directly related to the rotation of the Earth. It is responsible for the deflection of winds and ocean currents, causing them to move in a curved path rather than a straight line. This is known as the Coriolis effect.

5. Does the Coriolis force have any practical applications in a rotating space station?

Yes, the Coriolis force can be utilized in the design and operation of rotating space stations. For example, it can be used to simulate gravity and create artificial gravity for the comfort and health of astronauts living in the station.

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