Definition of Heat and the First Law of Thermodynamics (discrepancy?)

In summary: There is no clear consensus in the community as to which convention should be used, but the convention used in Denbigh is the Physics convention.
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Zemansky defines Heat as : When a closed system whose surroundings are at a different temperature and on which diathermic work may be done undergoes a process, then the energy transferred by non mechanical means, equal to the difference between the change in internal energy and the diathermic work is called heat. ##Q= \Delta U - W##(diathermic).

But the First Law of Thermodynamics states : ## Q = \Delta U + W##

Is the discrepancy because for diathermic work, ## W = -W##?
 
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It depends on the convention used. Is ##W## the work performed by the system or on the system?
 
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DrClaude said:
It depends on the convention used. Is ##W## the work performed by the system or on the system?
Oh! I see now! Thanks!

Regarding conventions :

For Physics :
If Heat is absorbed/added to the system = Work on the system by the surroundings = System expands=##=+ W##
If Heat is released by the system = Work by the system on the surroundings = system contracts ##=-W##

For Chemistry : The reverse applies

Is my understanding correct?
Is the reversal for Chemistry simply by convention, or is there some specific purpose?
 
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It depends on the book. In Denbigh, an obvious chemistry text, he uses what you refer to as the Physics convention
 
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Chestermiller said:
It depends on the book. In Denbigh, an obvious chemistry text, he uses what you refer to as the Physics convention

So there isn't an official set of guidelines from IUPAC or a clear consensus in the Physics and Chemistry communities?
Also, just to be clear, I am correct regarding the sign convention for work done by system/on the system with reference to Physics?
 
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In your "physics convention," W is the work done by the surroundings on the system. In the other convention, W is the work done by the system on the surroundings. These definitions are independent of whether expansion or compression is occurring.
 
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What is the definition of heat?

Heat is a form of energy that is transferred from one object to another due to a difference in temperature.

What is the First Law of Thermodynamics?

The First Law of Thermodynamics is a fundamental principle in physics that states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can only be transferred or converted from one form to another.

What is the discrepancy between the definition of heat and the First Law of Thermodynamics?

The discrepancy between the definition of heat and the First Law of Thermodynamics is that the definition of heat focuses on the transfer of energy, while the First Law of Thermodynamics focuses on the conservation of energy.

How does the First Law of Thermodynamics relate to heat transfer?

The First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but can only be transferred or converted. This means that in a heat transfer process, the total amount of energy remains constant.

What are some real-life examples of the First Law of Thermodynamics in action?

Some examples of the First Law of Thermodynamics in action include the operation of a refrigerator, the burning of fuel in a car engine, and the conversion of sunlight into electricity in solar panels.

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