Double Integral of Pythagoras over rectangular region

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the average length of a line drawn from a point on the perimeter of a rectangle to another point on one of the remaining sides. It involves solving an integral using trigonometric substitutions and breaking the region into two parts.
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ctchervenkov
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Take any given point on the perimeter of a (A x B) rectange and then draw a line from that point to another point on one of the three remaining sides of the rectangle. What is the average length of the line?
Well, the answer to that question involves integrals like this:

[tex]\int_0^A \int_0^B \sqrt{x^2 + y^2} dy dx[/tex]

This thing gets a bit interesting given that it's basically a polar type integral but with rectangular boundaries. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Chris
 
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  • #2
That looks like a fairly standard "trig substitution" integral. To integrate with respect to y initially, let [itex] y= x tan(\theta)[/itex] so that [itex]\sqrt{x^2+ y^2}= \sqrt{x^2+ x^2tan^2(\theta)}= x\sqrt{1+ tan^2(\theta)}= x sec(\theta)[/itex] while [itex]dy= x sec^2(\theta)d\theta[/itex]. The first integral becomes [itex]\int_0^{arctan(B/x)} (x sec(\theta))(x sec^2(\theta)[/itex][itex]= x^2\int_0^{arctan(B/x)} sec^3(\theta)d\theta[/itex]
 
  • #3
ctchervenkov said:
Take any given point on the perimeter of a (A x B) rectange and then draw a line from that point to another point on one of the three remaining sides of the rectangle. What is the average length of the line?
Well, the answer to that question involves integrals like this:

[tex]\int_0^A \int_0^B \sqrt{x^2 + y^2} dy dx[/tex]

This thing gets a bit interesting given that it's basically a polar type integral but with rectangular boundaries. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Chris

Hi ctchervenkov! Welcome to PF!

Polar works here. You will need to split the region into two.
$$\int_0^{\tan^{-1}\frac{B}{A}} \int_0^{\frac{A}{\cos\theta}} r^2\,dr\,d\theta+\int_{\tan^{-1}\frac{B}{A}}^{\pi/2} \int_{0}^{\frac{B}{\sin\theta}} r^2\,dr\,d\theta$$
Not sure if this can be simplified further.
 
  • #4
to Pranav-Arora: I had tried that, but the things got a bit ugly...

to HallsofIvy: Had not tried that particular substitution I don't think. Thanks. Will see if that simplifies things...
 

What is a double integral?

A double integral is a mathematical tool used in multi-variable calculus to calculate the volume under a surface in a three-dimensional space.

What is the Pythagoras theorem?

The Pythagoras theorem is a mathematical concept that states that in a right-angled triangle, the square of the length of the hypotenuse (the side opposite the right angle) is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides.

How is Pythagoras theorem used in a double integral?

In a double integral of Pythagoras over a rectangular region, the Pythagoras theorem is used to calculate the distance from the origin to a point on a surface, and then this distance is squared and integrated over a rectangular region to find the volume under the surface.

What is a rectangular region?

A rectangular region is a two-dimensional space bounded by four straight lines, where each side is parallel to either the x-axis or the y-axis.

Why is the double integral of Pythagoras over a rectangular region useful?

The double integral of Pythagoras over a rectangular region is useful in many applications, such as calculating the volume of a pyramid or a cone, finding the center of mass of an object, and solving optimization problems in economics and engineering.

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