Electric Field Inside Concentric Spheres

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The discussion centers around understanding the electric field between concentric spheres, specifically why it points radially outward between two charged regions. The use of Gauss' law is emphasized as the most effective method for solving this problem, highlighting the importance of charge density in determining the electric field direction. Confusion arises regarding the diagram accompanying the problem, particularly the representation of the inner sphere and the outer shell, which affects the interpretation of the electric field's behavior. Clarification is sought on whether the problem refers to the region between the sphere and the shell or the outer shell region, as this distinction impacts the answer. Ultimately, a thorough understanding of Gauss' law and careful analysis of the charge distribution are crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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I am having trouble figuring out why the answer is A) the electric field points radially between A and B. I think it is because since the point between A and B is mostly negative, the electric field would point outwords more strongly than it would for the positive charges which point the otherway. Is that why the electric field would point outward between A and B?
 

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This problem is most readily computed using Gauss' law. That is by far the easiest and clearest way of showing the answer. Have you seen Gauss' law yet in your coursework? ## \\ ## Edit: I read this more carefully=after removing a couple of statements I made that are inapplicable= Gauss' law does give the answer. Without Gauss' law, it would be difficult to compute it.
 
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Charles Link said:
This problem is most readily computed using Gauss' law. That is by far the easiest and clearest way of showing the answer. Have you seen Gauss' law yet in your coursework? ## \\ ## Edit: I read this more carefully=after removing a couple of statements I made that are inapplicable= Gauss' law does give the answer. Without Gauss' law, it would be difficult to compute it.

Yes, i learned about Gauss's law. Then i would have to find the charge based on the charge density? Wouldn't there be two regions of differing charge density?

edit : E = (p*V1 + p*V2)/ ((4pi*r^2)*episilon*)
 
Something is bothering me regarding the figure accompanying the problem statement.
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The text states that there is a charged sphere surrounded by a charged shell, and refers to the region between them. To me is seems that the pinkish-red object at the center would be the inner sphere and the tan region the surrounding shell. The region between would be the darker grey-ish part. But the radius indicators suggest that the inner sphere reaches the inner surface of the shell. Are the radius vectors and charge labels part of the original figure?
 

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gneill said:
But the radius indicators suggest that the inner sphere reaches the inner surface of the shell. Are the radius vectors and charge labels part of the original figure?

I guess that is why I am confused. The pic was part of a lecture slides since it was a iclicker question. There is no original figure unfortunately. I do know that the answer is A)

Edit: I get it now. I don't think the picture is really helpful. Redrawing the diagram based on the description, it makes more sense that the efield points outward.
 
If you draw a spherical Gaussian shell of radius ## a<r<b ##, there will be radii where the negative charge enclosed is minimal, e.g. radii ## r \approx a ##, but also radii where the negative charge enclosed exceeds the positive charge ## +Q ## at the center, e.g. for ## r \approx b ##. That should help determine the answer. If you know how to work Gauss' law proficiently, the answer should be obvious. ## \\ ## One question I also have, as did @gneill above: They misstated the problem: Are they interested in the region between the sphere and the outer shell, or in the outer shell region of ## a<r<b ##? The answer is different for these two regions.
 
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Another approach to the problem is to consider that inside a spherical shell of charge the field due to that shell
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One question I also have, as did @gneill above: They misstated the problem: Are they interested in the region between the sphere and the shell, or in the outer shell region of a<r<ba<r<b a
If the "known" answer is ##A##, then we can decide between those choices :wink:
 
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Another approach to the problem is to consider that inside a spherical shell of charge the field due to that shell

If the "known" answer is ##A##, then we can decide between those choices :wink:
It might be worthwhile for the OP to work the problem for both cases, and not worry that the statement of the problem is unclear on which region they want to be considered.
 
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