Expectation Value Notation in Griffiths QM Textbook Third Edition

In summary, in the 3rd edition of the Introduction to Quantum Mechanics textbook by Griffiths, he normally uses <x> as the notation for expectation values, but in Chapter 3 when he derives the uncertainty principle, he uses the operator notation <A^B^> for one of the expectation values. This may be due to author preference and is a common practice among physicists. The correct notation is <A> = <psi|A|psi>, where |psi> is the state of the system and A is the observable represented by the operator <A>.
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In the 3rd edition of the Introduction to Quantum Mechanics textbook by Griffiths, he normally does the notation of the expectation value as <x> for example. But, in Chapter 3 when he derives the uncertainity principle, he keeps the operator notation in the expectation value. See the pasted page. I don't understand why he suddenly keeps the operator notation for the expectation value and for just one of the expectation values in the group below. Is there a physical reasoning for this or was it just author preference?
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But, in Chapter 3 when he derives the uncertainity principle, he keeps the operator notation in the expectation value. See the pasted page. I don't understand why he suddenly keeps the operator notation for the expectation value and for just one of the expectation values in the group below.
I think he is quite consistent in his notation here. What would you propose ?
 
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I think he is quite consistent in his notation here. What would you propose ?
Yes, he roughly follows the same notation except for the <A^B^>. He doesn't explain why he does that, I'm assuming it's just preference.
 
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Yes, he roughly follows the same notation except for the <A^B^>. He doesn't explain why he does that, I'm assuming it's just preference.
Technically, if we have an observable ##A##, represented by operator ##\hat A## and the system in state ##\psi##, then: ##\langle A \rangle## is the expected value of measurements of ##A## (for a system in state ##\psi##); and, ##\langle \hat A \rangle = \langle \psi |\hat A|\psi \rangle##.

And, of course, we have: ##\langle A \rangle = \langle \hat A \rangle##.
 
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Yes, that's common practice of physicists' sloppy notation. If you are pedantic, the expectation values are of course expectation values of observables, not operators, but the operators are of course used to describe observables in quantum mechanics. The correct notation is
$$\langle A \rangle=\langle \psi|\hat{A} \psi \rangle,$$
where ##|\psi \rangle \langle \psi|## describing the state the particle is prepared in when measuring the observable ##A##, which is represented by the self-adjoint operator ##\hat{A}##.
 
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1. What is the purpose of expectation value notation in Griffiths QM textbook?

The purpose of expectation value notation in Griffiths QM textbook is to calculate the average value of a physical quantity in quantum mechanics. It allows us to find the most probable outcome of a measurement for a given quantum state.

2. How is expectation value notation calculated?

Expectation value notation is calculated by taking the integral of the product of the quantum state and the operator for the physical quantity being measured. This integral is then divided by the integral of the quantum state alone.

3. What is the significance of expectation value notation in quantum mechanics?

Expectation value notation is significant in quantum mechanics because it allows us to make predictions about the behavior of quantum systems. It provides a way to calculate the average value of a physical quantity, which is important in understanding the behavior of particles at the quantum level.

4. Can expectation value notation be used for all physical quantities in quantum mechanics?

Yes, expectation value notation can be used for all physical quantities in quantum mechanics. It is a general method for calculating the average value of any physical quantity in quantum mechanics, as long as the corresponding operator can be defined.

5. Are there any limitations to expectation value notation?

One limitation of expectation value notation is that it only provides an average value and does not give information about the spread or uncertainty of the measurement. Additionally, it may not accurately predict the outcome of measurements for certain quantum systems, such as those with entangled particles.

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