Experiment to measure EM waves

In summary: It sounds like you have some interesting ideas for experiments, but you will need to do some more research and learn more about the fundamental principles and equipment needed before you can conduct them effectively.
  • #1
victum_astrum
2
0
Okay, let me prelude this by saying I only have an -EXTREMELY- limited understanding of classical physics, and zero knowledge of quantum mechanics. This is really just my asking a few questions in regards to an idea I had for an experiment, and what would be a good and accurate way to scientifically measure it. If this is something that requires an advanced degree in QFT, please feel free to ignore this post/move it to the trash bin.

[PREMISE]
So according to Maxwell, an oscillating electric charge set at a specific frequency generates EM/light waves. The strength of the induced field is proportional to the rate of change of the inducing field.

Now the electric & magnetic fields 'regenerate' each other at a constant speed - the speed of light - so energy conservation is maintained. The frequency can change, but the speed of propagation never changes.

[QUESTIONS] - 1 and 2 are not related to the experiment.
1: Can this process be reversed? Could you somehow translate an EM wave back into an electron, or is this some string theory level crap?

2: Can other wave types such as gravity or sound also be reversed into a corresponding particle?

[ACTUAL EXPERIMENT QUESTION]
3: Can different charges besides the electric charge be used to generate any kind of field (positive/neutral), and if so what would that fields properties be?

[OBJECTIVE]
My objective is doing a simple little experiment in seeing what other methods exist in creating waves and measuring them. The problem lies in the fact that I'm unsure what kind of apparatus you would need to measure and set wave frequency, charge, etc... I also had a neat little idea wherein instead of somehow magically charging an object with electrons or protons I could just use cations and anions in some kind of liquid held in a test tube or something, to see if I could create a similar process, making this kind of a chemistry/physics combo. Maybe I'd use the negatively charged tube as my control group or something.

So I'd appreciate any responses or input to my ideas here.. are they complete garbage, not doable in a home lab setting, or is my thinking way off? Basically the tl;dr is I'd like to know what (if any) devices I'd need to set this up. Thanks in advance!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
victum_astrum said:
The frequency can change, but the speed of propagation never changes.
It's the other way around, the frequency never change (at least up to linear interaction in the matter) but the speed of propagation changes depending on the refractive index.
victum_astrum said:
Can this process be reversed? Could you somehow translate an EM wave back into an electron, or is this some string theory level crap?
Search for the so-called Pair Production. This process needs EM wave with photon energy at least 1.02 MeV (i.e. gamma ray) to produce electron and positron pair.
 
  • #3
It sounds to me like you are looking to experiment with radio. You certainly can build one yourself.
 
  • #4
Unfortunately, you seem to have quite a few misunderstandings about particles, waves, and electromagnetism in general. I will point out however, that creating EM waves from moving charges and the converse, moving charges using EM waves, is the basic premise of radio. Antenna theory would go into great detail on this matter.
 
  • Like
Likes russ_watters
  • #5
victum_astrum said:
[QUESTIONS] - 1 and 2 are not related to the experiment.
1: Can this process be reversed? Could you somehow translate an EM wave back into an electron, or is this some string theory level crap?

No, not really. You cannot create a single electron from EM waves. That would be a violation of conservation of charge. Note that you aren't turning an electron into an EM wave. You are using energy to accelerate the electron and it is this energy that is being transformed into the EM wave, not the electron. You can certainly reverse this process and turn the EM wave back into another form of energy. That's what antennas and radio receivers do.

victum_astrum said:
[ACTUAL EXPERIMENT QUESTION]
3: Can different charges besides the electric charge be used to generate any kind of field (positive/neutral), and if so what would that fields properties be?

The electromagnetic interaction (or EM force) is the only one that contains two charges with relatively simple rules for its interactions. Newtonian gravitation has a single "charge" (everything attracts) and in GR it isn't even a force. The strong and weak forces have some very complicated interactions that aren't entirely understood and aren't always analogous to electromagnetism. You can find plenty of details on these interactions on wikipedia and plenty of other places on the web.

victum_astrum said:
[OBJECTIVE]
My objective is doing a simple little experiment in seeing what other methods exist in creating waves and measuring them. The problem lies in the fact that I'm unsure what kind of apparatus you would need to measure and set wave frequency, charge, etc... I also had a neat little idea wherein instead of somehow magically charging an object with electrons or protons I could just use cations and anions in some kind of liquid held in a test tube or something, to see if I could create a similar process, making this kind of a chemistry/physics combo. Maybe I'd use the negatively charged tube as my control group or something.

So I'd appreciate any responses or input to my ideas here.. are they complete garbage, not doable in a home lab setting, or is my thinking way off? Basically the tl;dr is I'd like to know what (if any) devices I'd need to set this up. Thanks in advance!

There are plenty of suitable RF transmitters and receivers that would work fine if you want to study EM waves. As for other waves, unless they're the waves in your bathtub or home pool, you're probably out of luck. It took billions of dollars to detect the first gravitational waves, so that's kind of out of the question, as is any investigation into the other fundamental forces.
 
  • Like
Likes davenn and vanhees71

1. What is the purpose of measuring EM waves in an experiment?

The purpose of measuring EM waves in an experiment is to understand and study the properties of electromagnetic radiation. This can help in various fields such as telecommunications, astronomy, and medical imaging.

2. What equipment is needed to measure EM waves in an experiment?

The equipment needed to measure EM waves in an experiment includes an EM wave generator, an antenna or receiver, and a detector or measuring instrument. The specific equipment used may vary depending on the type of EM waves being measured.

3. How do you measure the frequency of EM waves in an experiment?

The frequency of EM waves can be measured by using a frequency meter or oscilloscope. The EM wave generator is connected to the frequency meter, which then displays the frequency of the waves being emitted. Alternatively, the wavelength of the waves can be measured and the frequency can be calculated using the formula f = c/λ, where c is the speed of light and λ is the wavelength.

4. What factors can affect the accuracy of measurements in an experiment measuring EM waves?

Some factors that can affect the accuracy of measurements in an experiment measuring EM waves include external interference, equipment calibration, and environmental conditions such as temperature and humidity. It is important to control these factors to obtain reliable and accurate measurements.

5. What are some applications of measuring EM waves in an experiment?

Measuring EM waves in an experiment has numerous applications, such as in the development of new communication technologies, studying the behavior of waves in different environments, and understanding the properties of celestial objects. It can also be used in medical diagnostics, such as in MRI machines, which use EM waves to produce images of the human body.

Similar threads

Replies
20
Views
1K
  • Electromagnetism
Replies
15
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
76
  • Electromagnetism
Replies
9
Views
7K
Replies
7
Views
1K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • Electromagnetism
Replies
12
Views
2K
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • Electromagnetism
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
1K
Back
Top