Finding the cardinal number for the intersection of two sets

In summary: Is it because there may be a percentage of people that like neither? So this would mean ##n(A) + n(B)-n(A\cap B) \leq n(A\cup B)##?Correct. Good job.
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Homework Statement
A survey shows that ##63 %## Americans like cheese where as ##76 %## like apples. If ##x %## like both, find ##x##.
Relevant Equations
Since ##A \cap B \subset A## and ## A \cap B \subset B## :
##n(A \cap B) \leq n(A)## and ##n(A \cap B) \leq n(B)##
i.e ##n(A \cap B) \leq 63##
Also, ##n(A\cap B ) \geq 39## since ##n(A\cap B) = n(A)+ n(B)-n(A\cup B)## but ##n(A\cup B) \leq 100##

Thus : ## 39 \leq x \leq 63##
My Question :

1.Why are the inequalities considered? Why not simply use ##n(A\cap B) = n(A)+ n(B)-n(A\cup B)## to get ## n(A\cap B) = 39## ?
2. The way I interpret this is : If the set for people liking cheese was to be a subset of the set for people who like apples then the most number of people to like both would be 63. But I still fail to understand why the minimum value should be 39 (Why : ##P(A) + P(B) - P(A \cup B) < 1##)?
 
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JC2000 said:
My Question :

1.Why are the inequalities considered? Why not simply use ##n(A\cap B) = n(A)+ n(B)-n(A\cup B)## to get ## n(A\cap B) = 39## ?
Because it's not given how many like both cheese and apples.
 
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Mark44 said:
Because it's not given how many like both cheese and apples.

Yes but we are given the remaining variables from which ##n(A \cap B)## can be found (?).
 
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JC2000 said:
Yes but we are given the remaining variables from which ##n(A \cap B)## can be found (?).
No, since you aren't given ##n(A \cup B)##
 
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Mark44 said:
No, since you aren't given ##n(A \cup B)##
Can't it be assumed to be 100? (Also could you shed some light on Q2?) Thanks!
 
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JC2000 said:
Can't it be assumed to be 100? (Also could you shed some light on Q2?) Thanks!
All you are given is that ##n(A \cup B) \le 100##, which doesn't imply that it equals 100.
I need to take off in a bit, so maybe somebody else can take a crack at your other question.
 
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JC2000: I assume your numbers are given as percentages, right, so that it should be 76% and 63%?Edit. As Mark44 wrote, you don't have all the data you need. But you are correct that the percentage that like both is at most 63( Since it is a subset of those who like cheese) and the percentage that likes either is at most 100
 
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Oh yes! Thanks!
 
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As Mark44 pointed out, notice that ##n(A\cup B) ## is _at most_ 100, but not necessarily 100. Can you see why?
 
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WWGD said:
As Mark44 pointed out, notice that ##n(A\cup B) ## is _at most_ 100, but not necessarily 100. Can you see why?
Is it because there may be a percentage of people that like neither? So this would mean ##n(A) + n(B)-n(A\cap B) \leq n(A\cup B)##?
 
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Correct. Good job.
 
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Thanks a lot!
 
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1. What is a cardinal number?

A cardinal number is a number that represents the size or quantity of a set. It is used to count the number of elements in a set and is usually denoted by the symbol "n".

2. How do you find the cardinal number for the intersection of two sets?

To find the cardinal number for the intersection of two sets, you need to find the number of elements that are common to both sets. This can be done by listing out the elements of each set and identifying the ones that are present in both sets. The number of common elements is the cardinal number for the intersection.

3. Can the cardinal number for the intersection of two sets be greater than the cardinal number of either set?

Yes, it is possible for the cardinal number for the intersection of two sets to be greater than the cardinal number of either set. This can happen when the two sets have some elements in common, but also have some unique elements that are not present in the other set.

4. What is the significance of finding the cardinal number for the intersection of two sets?

Finding the cardinal number for the intersection of two sets can help determine the relationship between the two sets. If the cardinal number is zero, it means the sets are disjoint and have no elements in common. If the cardinal number is equal to the cardinal number of one set, it means the sets are identical. If the cardinal number is less than the cardinal number of either set, it means the sets have some elements in common, but also have some unique elements.

5. Is there a formula for finding the cardinal number for the intersection of two sets?

No, there is no specific formula for finding the cardinal number for the intersection of two sets. It depends on the elements present in the sets and can be determined by listing out the elements and identifying the common ones. However, there are some general principles and properties of sets that can be used to simplify the process of finding the cardinal number.

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