Group and Identity: Proving (12)(34)² = (12)(34)

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of permutations and their multiplication. It is mentioned that the product of two permutations results in a new permutation. The question is raised about what it means for the product of two permutations to square to the identity. It is then explained that this is not always the case, as shown through an example. The conversation ends with a clarification about the multiplication of permutations and how it results in applying both functions subsequently.
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The question is simple, why does "(12)(34) (elements of A4) squares to the identity"?
I am probably missing a crucial point here, but what does it means that (12)(34) squares to the identity? How do we prove it?
((12)(34))² = (12)(34)(12)(34) = (12)(12)(34)(34) = (12)(34) ##\neq I ##
Is not this the algorithm?
 
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##(12)(12)=(1)## so your conclusion is wrong.

You read this from right to left as:
##2\longrightarrow 1 \longrightarrow 2## and ##1\longrightarrow 2 \longrightarrow 1## so applying both results in the identity. Permutations are functions: ##f_{(12)} : \{1,2\} \longrightarrow \{1,2\}## with ##f_{(12)}(1)=2## and ##f_{(12)}(2)=1##. Multiplication of these functions is applying both functions subsequently.
 
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Herculi said:
((12)(34))² = (12)(34)(12)(34) = (12)(12)(34)(34) = (12)(34) ##\neq I ##

First equality is ok.
Second equality is ok, but it should be justified why ##(12)## and ##(34)## commute.
Third equality is wrong: ##(12)(12) = 1## and ##(34)(34) = 1##. The reason for this is that ##1 \mapsto 2 \mapsto 1## and ##2 \mapsto 1 \mapsto 2##. It doesn't matter here whether you read from left to right or from right to left.
 

1. What is the meaning of (12)(34)² in the context of group and identity?

The expression (12)(34)² represents the composition of two permutations, (12) and (34), which are elements of a group. The superscript 2 indicates that this composition is performed twice, resulting in a new permutation.

2. How is the equality (12)(34)² = (12)(34) proven?

This equality can be proven using the properties of groups and the definition of composition of permutations. Specifically, we can show that the left side of the equation produces the same result as the right side when applied to any element of the group.

3. Why is it important to prove this identity?

Proving this identity is important because it demonstrates the closure property of groups, which states that the composition of two elements in a group will also result in an element of the group. This is a fundamental property of groups and is used in many mathematical proofs and applications.

4. Can this identity be extended to other permutations?

Yes, this identity can be extended to any two permutations in a group. The same proof technique can be applied to show that (ab)(cd)² = (ab)(cd) for any permutations (ab) and (cd).

5. How does this identity relate to the concept of order in a group?

The order of an element in a group is defined as the smallest positive integer n such that the element raised to the nth power equals the identity element. In this case, we can see that the order of (12)(34) is 2, since raising it to the power of 2 results in the identity permutation. This identity further illustrates the concept of order in a group.

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