How did Saccheri prove Euclid's Fifth Postulate?

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In summary, Saccheri's contribution to non-euclidean geometries involved attempting to prove the Parallel Postulate using the reductio ad absurdum method. He refuted the acute angle and obtuse angle hypotheses by showing that they contradicted Euclid's Proposition I.16, which assumes the infinitude of straight lines. However, there are conflicting explanations of how he proved the obtuse angle hypothesis wrong, with some sources stating that it implied the fifth postulate itself. Further research is needed to fully understand Saccheri's approach.
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Hello people. I've been reading some papers online (if any links are needed, please let me know) regarding the foundation of the non-euclidean geometries, but i just can't figure out one or two details about Saccheri's contribution to said matter. In his attempts to prove the Parallel Postulate using the reductio ad absurdum method, according to which he designed the Saccheri Quadrilateral, he disposed of two of the three hypotheses: the acute angle and obtuse angle ones. I understand the basis of the Quadrilateral and "how it works" and why the right angle hypothesis is equivalent to the Parallel Postulate. My question is about how Saccheri proved the other two hypotheses wrong. All the papers i find on the subject don't go too deep into it and provide almost no mathematical proof, only focusing on the "theoretical part" of the proofs. Plus, the only edition of Saccheri's original paper that's available online is in latin and my latin skills are, well, inexistent. So if anyone is willing to share their knowledge or some obscure paper on the matter, please be my guest; i'd be extremely grateful for it, because this has been troubling my mind for several weeks as of now. Thank you all.

P. S. I'd like to point out that Saccheri never actually proved the Parallel Postulate, although the title of this post may make it seem like he did.
 
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According to Jean Dieudonné,
diogo_sg said:
My question is about how Saccheri proved the other two hypotheses wrong.
this question cannot be answered as
J. Dieudonné - History of Mathematics (1700-1900) said:
When he finally came to the conclusion that the two hypotheses were to be rejected, it was not because he had encountered the expected formal contradictions, but because he came to conclusions which he did not consider acceptable.

If your German is better than your Latin, you might be interested in
https://archive.org/details/dietheoriederpar00stuoft
 
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fresh_42 said:
According to Jean Dieudonné,

this question cannot be answered asIf your German is better than your Latin, you might be interested in
https://archive.org/details/dietheoriederpar00stuoft
But Saccheri did try to prove the 'strange' hypotheses wrong, didn't he? Even though he didn't succeed in his attempts, i would like to know what exactly did he do (that is, the propositions he came up with, which i cannot find anywhere online) to dismiss the two odd hypotheses. If i do recall, he tried to refute the obtuse angle hypothesis using Euclid's Propositions I.16 and I.18, these two being based on the notion that straight lines are infinite; with this, Saccheri was able to prove said hypothesis "wrong", but the way he worked things out is an unsolved mystery to me. The same goes with the acute angle hypothesis and the "elements at infinity" thing.

Regarding the german, I'm not a speaker either, but i do appreciate the link; i'll try to find an english version of that paper.
 
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Dieudonné writes, that Saccheri basically developed parts of a non Euclidean geometry without recognizing it. The main reference of these early achievements based on the work of the Arabic scientist Nasir ad-din at Tusi (1201-1274) of the 13th century, so maybe it could help to search for this. Apparently Saccheri, Lambert and Legendre knew this work. The subject of the parallel postulate even dates back to the year ≈1000 and Alhazen (see also the links there): On the eliminations of doubts in the book of Euclid on the elements.

Unfortunately Dieudonné only quotes Engel and Stäckel and simply writes "Saccheri deduced long and extensively conclusions from the hypothesis both angles were acute and then both angles were obtuse ..." with the original Latin paper as source - same as Wikipedia. But some sources (Latin, English, German) are mentioned on the German Wikipedia page: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccheri-Viereck
Perhaps you can go on from there.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Dieudonné writes, that Saccheri basically developed parts of a non Euclidean geometry without recognizing it. The main reference of these early achievements based on the work of the Arabic scientist Nasir ad-din at Tusi (1201-1274) of the 13th century, so maybe it could help to search for this. Apparently Saccheri, Lambert and Legendre knew this work. The subject of the parallel postulate even dates back to the year ≈1000 and Alhazen (see also the links there): On the eliminations of doubts in the book of Euclid on the elements.

Unfortunately Dieudonné only quotes Engel and Stäckel and simply writes "Saccheri deduced long and extensively conclusions from the hypothesis both angles were acute and then both angles were obtuse ..." with the original Latin paper as source - same as Wikipedia. But some sources (Latin, English, German) are mentioned on the German Wikipedia page: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccheri-Viereck
Perhaps you can go on from there.
Thanks a lot for the links. I'll be sure to check them as soon as possible
 
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So, i checked the links and realized that perhaps i didn't formulate my question properly. So i'll try to be more specific this time.
Saccheri admitted that the Parallel Postulate was false, thus being possible the existence of a quadrilateral with acute or obtuse summit angles. He named these two hypotheses acute and obtuse angle hypotheses, AAH and OAH, respectively. He then proceeded to refute them.
Regarding the OAH, i have found multiple versions about the method used by Saccheri. One of them (which can be found here https://books.google.pt/books?id=2w...q=saccheri obtuse angle contradiction&f=false) explains that Saccheri used Euclid's Proposition I.16, admitting, as the latter did, the infinitude of the straight line. Since the OAH contradicts this axiom (which is similar to Euclid's Second Postulate), for the curving line would eventually meet itself at some point, this hypothesis would be refuted. Very well. Makes sense to me. The hypothesis was false because it would lead to the inexistence of infinite lines, something that had been (wrongly, as we can now understand through elliptical geometry) admitted by Euclid as an axiom since the beginning.
This is where things get strange, because i have read someplace else (https://books.google.pt/books?id=-U...AA#v=onepage&q=acute angle hypothesis&f=false) that Saccheri did assume the infinitude of the straight line, as stated before, only this time it's said that he showed that the OAH implied the fifth postulate itself! And this is where i lose track of everything because every paper i read doesn't actually explain this step, they just assume it. This is one of the things i would like to know: what did Saccheri do in order to try to refute the OAH.
If he used Euclid's Proposition I.16 and concluded that the OAH was inconsistent with it (i.e. with the infinitude of the straight line and also with the angle measures of the triangle), very well, i understand it all. Now, if he somehow showed that the OAH implies the fifth postulate, i ask: how did he do that?
On the other hand, he also tried to refute the AAH; for this, he brought up concepts about elements at infinity (check the last link) and I'm not quite sure how this would work as a refutation of this hypothesis. I know that not even Saccheri himself was too convinced about his work here; but what exactly was his idea? How does it work?

I hope i explained it better that i had before. I'll be waiting for new replies. Thank you
 

1. What is Euclid's Fifth Postulate?

Euclid's Fifth Postulate, also known as the Parallel Postulate, states that given a line and a point not on that line, there exists exactly one line parallel to the given line through the given point.

2. Why was Saccheri interested in proving Euclid's Fifth Postulate?

Saccheri was interested in proving Euclid's Fifth Postulate because it was the only one of Euclid's postulates that could not be proven, and he wanted to find a way to prove it using the other four postulates.

3. How did Saccheri attempt to prove Euclid's Fifth Postulate?

Saccheri used a method called reductio ad absurdum, or proof by contradiction. He assumed that the postulate was false, and then used this assumption to show that it led to a contradiction.

4. What was the main flaw in Saccheri's proof?

The main flaw in Saccheri's proof was that he assumed a false statement, which led to an incorrect conclusion. In order to prove something by contradiction, the initial assumption must be true.

5. Did Saccheri's proof ultimately prove Euclid's Fifth Postulate?

No, Saccheri's proof was ultimately unsuccessful in proving Euclid's Fifth Postulate. However, his work paved the way for later mathematicians to successfully prove the postulate, such as Gauss, Lobachevsky, and Bolyai.

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