How to quantify the thermal advantages of a white thermos?

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In summary, the color of a thermos does not determine its heat retention ability. Rather, it is the emissivity at infrared wavelengths that plays a crucial role. For maximum heat containment, a thermos should have a low emissivity in the infrared range, achieved through the use of metallic coatings on glass surfaces. In vacuum-type thermos designs, the vacuum minimizes both heat conduction and convection, allowing for optimal heat retention. However, even with a solid insulator, the emissivity of the outer surface is not as important for heat containment.
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My understanding is that you could expect a white thermos to hold heat better than a black one as it doesn't lose heat through radiation as much. Is there a way to calculate the difference in heat retention?
 
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It is the emissivity at the IR (infrared) wavelengths that determines whether the heat is radiated away or not. Having a white color (low absorption=low emissivity) in the visible does not mean that it is low emissivity in the mid-IR (3-6 microns) and slightly longer wavelengths, out to about 20 microns, where most of the thermal radiation will occur at from temperatures around 300-350 Kelvin. (Wien's law and/or the Planck function tells you the wavelengths of interest). For maximum containment of the heat, if the outer surface becomes warm, the outer surface needs to have low emissivity in the infrared, and it will thereby will radiate less. ## \\ ## For thermos bottle design, it is really more optimal to contain the heat in the interior, by using glass surfaces whose outer coating is metallic. Some metals do have low emissivity throughout the infrared. These surfaces also work for keeping the inside cool in the case of cold beverages, by reflecting away any incident (radiated) thermal energy that comes from the outside. ## \\ ## Oftentimes, the design in thermos bottles is a vacuum between two glass layers, I believe with metallic coating on the glass surfaces that make up the vacuum cavity. That way, heat conduction is minimized by the vacuum, and radiative transfer is also minimized. ## \\ ## Meanwhile, even if a thermos bottle uses a high quality solid insulator instead of a vacuum type design, the emissivity of the outer surface is normally of a lower priority for ensuring good containment of the heat.
 
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That way, heat conduction is minimized by the vacuum ...
The vacuum also minimizes convection, don't forget.
 
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1. How do you measure the thermal advantages of a white thermos?

To quantify the thermal advantages of a white thermos, we can measure its ability to maintain a consistent temperature over time compared to a regular thermos. This can be done by filling both thermoses with hot water and checking the temperature at regular intervals.

2. What is the standard unit of measurement for thermal advantages?

The standard unit of measurement for thermal advantages is the coefficient of thermal retention (CTR). This measures the rate at which heat is lost or gained in a thermos.

3. Can the thermal advantages of a white thermos be affected by external factors?

Yes, external factors such as the surrounding temperature, humidity, and exposure to sunlight can affect the thermal advantages of a white thermos. It is important to conduct experiments in controlled environments to accurately measure its thermal performance.

4. Are there any industry standards for quantifying the thermal advantages of a white thermos?

Yes, there are industry standards such as the ASTM International Standard Test Method for Thermal Insulation Performance of Insulated Products (ASTM C177) that can be used to quantify the thermal advantages of a white thermos.

5. How can the thermal advantages of a white thermos be improved?

The thermal advantages of a white thermos can be improved by using materials with better insulation properties, such as vacuum insulation or double-walled construction. Additionally, regular maintenance and proper usage, such as preheating or precooling the thermos before use, can also help improve its thermal performance.

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