Is d((xn), (yn)) = lim d(xn, yn) a metric for Cauchy sequences in (X, d)?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the definition of a metric on the set of all Cauchy sequences in a metric space and whether or not it satisfies the property of d(x,y)=0\Leftrightarrow x=y. After considering different examples, it is determined that there exists a counter example, leading to the conclusion that the defined metric does not have this property.
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If (xn) and (yn) are two Cauchy sequences in a metric space (X, d), and we define
d((xn), (yn)) = lim d(xn, yn). Is this a metric on the set of all Cauchy sequences?

I'm thinking yes since all 3 properties work.
 
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How do you check if the d you defined on the set of Cauchy sequences has the property [itex]d(x,y)=0\Leftrightarrow x=y[/itex]?
 
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thanks fredrik. I thought about it for a minute. So you're telling me it fails?
 
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Yes, that's what I'm saying. You should try to find an example of two different Cauchy sequences S1 and S2 such that d(S1,S2)=0.
 
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I'm thinking of a counter example something like:

let Sn = (0,1,0,1,0,1...) with nth term being 0, and Tn = (0,0,0,0...)

d(Sn,Tn)=lim d(sn, yn)= lim d(0,0)=0 but Sn is different from Tn.

what do you think?
 
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0,1,0,1,0,1,... isn't a Cauchy sequence (and also isn't at 0 "distance" from 0,0,0,...).
 
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Fredrik said:
0,1,0,1,0,1,... isn't a Cauchy sequence (and also isn't at 0 "distance" from 0,0,0,...).

nice,

let Sn= 1/n
Tn = 0,0,0,0,0

d(Sn, Tn) = lim d(sn, tn) = 0 yet sn does not equal tn.
 
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Yes, that works. Another possibility is to let S be any Cauchy sequence, then change just one of its terms, and call the new sequence T. Then we have d(S,T)=0 but S≠T. For example, 1,1,1,1... and 0,1,1,1,...
 
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Thank you Fredrik. :)
 

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