Line integral for work done by gravity

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of a line integral representing work done by the gravitational force. The argumentation for using the equation \hat{r}\cdot d\vec{s} = dr is to visualize the integral in terms of a small change in position in spherical coordinates. This approach may not be completely rigorous, but it provides a way to understand the integral. Additionally, it is mentioned that static gravity is an example of a conservative vector field, and the result of a path integral in such a field is independent of the path and dependent only on the end points.
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Lack of understanding of the technique used to calculate the line integral.
Dear Physics Forums people,

My problem lies in understanding how the following line integral, which represents work done by the gravitational force, was calculated

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Specifically, in the integral after the 2nd = sign, they implicitly used [tex] \hat{r}\cdot d\vec{s} = dr[/tex]

I wish to understand what is the argumentation for that.

Following is the picture that ought to provide the argumentation (but doesn't do it for me).

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Gravitational force is ##\vec{F}=-\frac{GMm}{r^2}\hat{r}##. So the integral is $$-GMm\int_{r_A}^{r_B} \frac{\hat{r}\cdot \text{d}\vec{s}}{r^2}$$. Now, you can think of ##\text{d}\vec{s}## as a very little change in position, since it's a vector you can write it in spherical coordinates: ##\text{d}r\hat{r}+r\text{d}\theta \hat{\theta}+r\sin{\theta}\text{d}\phi\hat{\phi}##. When you do the scalar product $$\hat{r}\cdot \text{d}\vec{s}=\text{d}r$$.

Of course, this is not completely rigorous, you should parametrize the integral to reduce it to a Riemann integral, but at the end, this is a not completely wrong way to visualise it.
 
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Gaussian97 said:
Gravitational force is ##\vec{F}=-\frac{GMm}{r^2}\hat{r}##. So the integral is $$-GMm\int_{r_A}^{r_B} \frac{\hat{r}\cdot \text{d}\vec{s}}{r^2}$$. Now, you can think of ##\text{d}\vec{s}## as a very little change in position, since it's a vector you can write it in spherical coordinates: ##\text{d}r\hat{r}+r\text{d}\theta \hat{\theta}+r\sin{\theta}\text{d}\phi\hat{\phi}##. When you do the scalar product $$\hat{r}\cdot \text{d}\vec{s}=\text{d}r$$.

Of course, this is not completely rigorous, you should parametrize the integral to reduce it to a Riemann integral, but at the end, this is a not completely wrong way to visualise it.

Thank you! I appreciate your answer :)
 
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bottle_shadow said:
Specifically, in the integral after the 2nd = sign, they implicitly used [tex] \hat{r}\cdot d\vec{s} = dr[/tex]

I wish to understand what is the argumentation for that.
Static gravity is an example of a conservative vector field. The result of a path integral in a conservative field is independent of the path and is dependent only on the end points.

So use a path that swings from A over to a point at distance ##|\vec{r_a}|## along ##\vec{r_S}## (the integral over that part of the path is obviously zero since the path is always at right angles to the force) and then follows a path on out to B (that part is the simple scalar integral).
 

1. What is a line integral for work done by gravity?

A line integral for work done by gravity is a mathematical concept used to calculate the work done by gravity on an object as it moves along a given path. It takes into account the force of gravity, the displacement of the object, and the angle between the two.

2. How is a line integral for work done by gravity different from a regular line integral?

A line integral for work done by gravity is different from a regular line integral in that it takes into account the specific force of gravity, which is a conservative force. This means that the work done by gravity is path-independent, whereas a regular line integral may be path-dependent.

3. What are the key components of a line integral for work done by gravity?

The key components of a line integral for work done by gravity are the force of gravity, the displacement of the object, and the angle between the two. These components are used to calculate the work done by gravity along a given path.

4. How is a line integral for work done by gravity calculated?

To calculate a line integral for work done by gravity, the force of gravity is multiplied by the displacement of the object and the cosine of the angle between the two. This product is then integrated along the given path to determine the total work done by gravity.

5. What are some real-life applications of line integrals for work done by gravity?

Line integrals for work done by gravity have many real-life applications, including calculating the work done by gravity on objects moving on a slope or in a gravitational field, determining the potential energy of an object, and analyzing the motion of objects in space under the influence of gravity.

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