Phi (the golden ratio) in prime quadruplets

In summary, the conversation discusses the presence of Phi at the center of prime quadruplets, along with its square root and cube root. The conversation also raises the question of whether it is a coincidence or not and points out that the values shown are only approximations and not exactly Phi. The probability of finding these values is also brought up, with the conclusion that it is highly likely due to the manipulation of the formula, spacing, and column.
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Arcw
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Phi exists at the center of prime quadruplets, along with its square root, and cube root!


http://www.code144.com/zphithrice.png


The 'pos' numbers come from the position of the prime numbers in the sequence itself, i.e. 193 is the 44th prime number, and 197 is the 45th prime number, thus, the center of the prime quadruplet (105) gets assigned a value at the center of these (44.5), and these numbers can make Phi!


Do you think it is strange that Phi is hiding here?
 
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I think it is strange that you think phi is "hiding" in there. What you show is the ratio of two half integers, 44.5/27.5= 1.6181818... which is NOT phi. That is a rational number while phi is irrational. Yes, it is "close" to phi (if you consider two decimal places "close") but it is easy to find numbers "close" to any given number if you look long enough.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
I think it is strange that you think phi is "hiding" in there. What you show is the ratio of two half integers, 44.5/27.5= 1.6181818... which is NOT phi. That is a rational number while phi is irrational. Yes, it is "close" to phi (if you consider two decimal places "close") but it is easy to find numbers "close" to any given number if you look long enough.
Do you think it is a coincidence that the square root, and cube root (also to approximations) of Phi then directly follow, in that order, and all occur at the center of the quadruplets.

Get a probability guy over here, stat. :wink:

And by the way, it's three decimal places, not two -- and the cube root that follows is accurate to 5 decimal places.
 
  • #4
You're not even using the same formula for all of them. Or the same spacing. Or the same column.

What are the odds of finding approximations of three given values when you can manipulate the formula, spacing, and column? Pretty damn good.
 

1. What is the golden ratio (Phi)?

The golden ratio, also known as Phi (φ), is a mathematical constant that is approximately equal to 1.618. It is often denoted by the Greek letter φ and is derived from the ratio of two consecutive numbers in the Fibonacci sequence.

2. What are prime quadruplets?

Prime quadruplets are a set of four prime numbers that are consecutive, with a difference of 6 between each number. For example, 5, 7, 11, 13 is a prime quadruplet because each number is prime and the difference between each number is 6.

3. How is Phi related to prime quadruplets?

In prime quadruplets, the ratio of the first and third numbers (5 and 11) is approximately equal to Phi (1.618). Similarly, the ratio of the second and fourth numbers (7 and 13) is also approximately equal to Phi. This relationship between Phi and prime quadruplets has been observed in various studies and is considered to be a fascinating coincidence.

4. Are there any significant applications of Phi in prime quadruplets?

While the relationship between Phi and prime quadruplets is intriguing, there are no significant practical applications of this observation. However, it has been used as a basis for some mathematical puzzles and games.

5. Is the connection between Phi and prime quadruplets just a coincidence?

There is no concrete evidence to suggest that the relationship between Phi and prime quadruplets is anything more than a coincidence. It is possible that this observation is just a result of random chance, and further research is needed to understand the underlying reasons behind this connection.

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