Physical insight into integrating a product of two functions

In summary: Orthonormal basis functions \{g_1(x),g_2(x)...g_n(x)} can be thought of as a collection of vectors V = \{g_1(x),g_2(x)...g_n(x)\} that span the real line and satisfy the equation \sum_{i=1}^n g_i(x) = 0 . So if you want to find the coefficients c_s = \sum_{i=1}^n g_s(k) in a function c(s) defined on the set of real numbers then you can compute the inverse of
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I was wondering what the physical insight is of integrating a product of two functions. When we do that for a Fourier transform, we decompose a function into its constituent frequencies, and that's because the exponential with an imaginary x in the transform can be seen as a weighting function that looks at the frequency in the original signal. I'm not sure if this kind of logic is accurate.

In particular, what caused this question is the consideration of the Riemann-Liouville fractional derivative (definitions can be seen here: http://www.hindawi.com/journals/mpe/2014/238459/). We are integrating a function with respect to a power law (x - ε)n - α - 1 so it's a similar case. Does the power law "weigh" the information of the function it multiplies? Is there another way to think about it?

Any help is appreciated!
 
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Buddhapus17 said:
integrating a product of two functions.

You could call [itex] \int f(x) g(x) dx [/itex] "integrating the product of two functions", but the situation you are wondering about is of the form [itex] \int f(x) g(s,x) dx [/itex].

Consider functions defined on a finite number of values of [itex] x [/itex] (e.g. (f(1), f(2),...f(10) } [/itex] ) then the analogy to [itex] \int f(x) g(x) dx [/itex] is the inner product [itex] \sum f(k) g(k) [/itex]. If you had an set of orthonormal basis vectors (functions) [itex] \{g_1(x),g_2(x)...g_n(x) \} [/itex] then to represent a function [itex] f(x) [/itex] in that basis you would use the inner product to compute coefficents [itex] c_s = \sum f(k) g_s(k) [/itex] (which is analgous to [itex] \int f(x) g(s,x) [/itex]). The vector of coefficients [itex] (c_1, c_2,...c_n) [/itex] can be thought of as a function [itex] c(s) [/itex] defined on the finite number of values [itex] s = 1,2,...n [/itex].

So with the proper choice of a function [itex] g(s,x) [/itex] one mathematical interpretation of [itex] \int f(x) g(s,x) [/itex] is a transformation of a function [itex] f(x) [/itex] to a continuous function [itex] C(s) [/itex] that , loosely speaking, represents the coefficents used in expressing [itex] f(x) [/itex] in terms of an (infinite) set of basis functions [itex] g(s,x) [/itex] where [itex] s [/itex] is a "continuous" index for the basis functions.
 
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Stephen Tashi said:
So with the proper choice of a function [itex] g(s,x) [/itex] one mathematical interpretation of [itex] \int f(x) g(s,x) [/itex] is a transformation of a function [itex] f(x) [/itex] to a continuous function [itex] C(s) [/itex] that , loosely speaking, represents the coefficents used in expressing [itex] f(x) [/itex] in terms of an (infinite) set of basis functions [itex] g(s,x) [/itex] where [itex] s [/itex] is a "continuous" index for the basis functions.

So to clarify, in the case of when we have a f(ε) and g(ε, x) with g(ε, x) = (x - ε)n - α - 1, the power law is a continuous basis function with a continuous index x, and by integrating f(ε) * g(ε, x) we find continuous coefficients that represent the function f(ε) in the basis of that power law.
 
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Buddhapus17 said:
and by integrating f(ε) * g(ε, x) we find continuous coefficients that represent the function f(ε) in the basis of that power law.

I don't know if the particular function [itex] g(\epsilon,x) = (x - \epsilon)^{n -\alpha -1} [/itex] behaves like an orthonormal family of basis functions. i.e. if [itex] C(x) = \int f(\epsilon) g(\epsilon,x) d\epsilon [/itex] can [itex] f(\epsilon) [/itex] be reconstructed by an inverse transform [itex] f(\epsilon) = \int C(x) g(\epsilon,x) dx [/itex] ? Or [itex] f(\epsilon) = \int C(x) h(\epsilon,x) [/itex] for some other function [itex] h [/itex] ? If not then [itex] C(x) [/itex] isn't analogous to a set of coefficients in a linear combination.
 

What is meant by "integrating a product of two functions"?

Integrating a product of two functions means finding the integral (or area under the curve) of a mathematical expression that involves two functions multiplied together. This is a common technique used in calculus and is often used to solve problems in physics and engineering.

Why is it important to have physical insight when integrating a product of two functions?

Physical insight allows us to understand the real-world implications of the mathematical expression that we are integrating. It helps us to visualize the problem and make sure our calculations make sense in the context of the problem we are trying to solve.

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