Solve GRE Combinations Question: 24 x 9 x 10 Options

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In summary, for the first conversation, the number of possible model numbers is 2160. For the second conversation, the number of different committees that can be formed from a group of 10 people is 120.
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Hello! What is the fastest way to solve the following (I'm prepping for GRE and going too slow right now):"An appliances model number has three alphanumeric characters. The first character must be one of 24 permissible letters in the alphabet. The next character is numeric, a digit from 1 to 9. The last character is also numeric, ranging from 0 to 9.

How many distinct model numbers are possible? "Thank you SO MUCH for your help!
 
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For this, we can apply the fundamental counting principle to state that the number $N$ of distinct model numbers is given by:

\(\displaystyle N=(24)(9)(10)=2160\)
 
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Thank you so much. Would I use the same method for this problem:

"how many different committees of 7 people can be formed from a group of 10 people?"
 
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greprep said:
Thank you so much. Would I use the same method for this problem:

"how many different committees of 7 people can be formed from a group of 10 people?"

No, that requires using a combination, or binomial coefficient. Let's look at how we can determine this number without simply using a formula.

We know that for the first position on the committee, we have 10 choices, for the second we have 9 choices and so forth down to 4 choices for the 7th and final position. Now, if the order in which the members of the committee mattered, the number of ways we could choose the committee would in fact use the fundamental counting principle. Let's call the number of ways to pick such a committee, where the order chosen matters, as $N_1$...we would have:

\(\displaystyle N_1=10\cdot9\cdot8\cdot7\cdot6\cdot5\cdot4=\frac{10!}{3!}=\frac{10!}{(10-7)!}\)

This is referred to as permutations, and if we choose $r$ objects from $n$, where $r\le n$, then we may use the special notation:

\(\displaystyle _rP_n=\frac{n!}{(n-r)!}\)

However, since the order does not matter in this case, we are only interested in finding how many ways 7 can be chosen from 10 (will call this number $N$), we need to divide the previous result by the number of ways to order 7 objects, which is $7!$...thus:

\(\displaystyle N=\frac{N_1}{7!}=\frac{10!}{7!(10-7)!}\)

For the general case, where we are choosing $r$ objects from $n$ objects, where $r\le n$, we would have:

\(\displaystyle N=\frac{n!}{r!(n-r)!}\)

In probability, this is a special formula, and is referred to as combinations, and uses the notations:

\(\displaystyle _nC_r={n \choose r}=\frac{n!}{r!(n-r)!}\)

So, the answer to the question you asked is:

\(\displaystyle N={10 \choose 7}=\frac{10!}{7!(10-7)!}=\,?\)

By the way, for future reference, please start a new thread for a new question...this way our threads don't potentially become convoluted and difficult to follow. :)
 
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Awesome! So the answer here would just then just be (10)(9)(8)(7)(6)(5)(4), or 604,800.
 
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greprep said:
Awesome! So the answer here would just then just be (10)(9)(8)(7)(6)(5)(4), or 604,800.

That would be the correct number if the order in which the committee was chosen mattered, but in this case order doesn't matter.

\(\displaystyle N={10 \choose 7}=\frac{10!}{7!(10-7)!}=\frac{10\cdot9\cdot8}{3\cdot2}=5\cdot3\cdot8=120\)
 

What is the question asking for?

The question is asking for the total number of combinations possible when choosing 3 items from a set of 24, 9, and 10 options.

How do I solve this type of question?

This is a combination problem, so you will need to use the formula nCr = n! / (r! * (n - r)!), where n represents the total number of options and r represents the number of items being chosen.

What are the values for n and r in this question?

In this question, n = 24 + 9 + 10 = 43 and r = 3, since we are choosing 3 items from the set of 43 options.

What is the formula for calculating the total number of combinations?

The formula for calculating the total number of combinations is nCr = n! / (r! * (n - r)!).

What is the final answer to this question?

The final answer is 7315 possible combinations.

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