Solve the equation 8x^2−2xy^2=6y=3x^2+3x^3y^2

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In summary, the conversation discusses an equation that asks to find the values of x and y that make it true. The equation is a third-degree equation, which means it has a highest exponent of 3. It can be solved algebraically using techniques such as factoring or the quadratic formula, and there is no specific method that must be used. However, there are restrictions on the values of x and y, such as being real numbers and potentially having multiple or unique solutions.
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Find all the real numbers $x$ and $y$, that satisfy the following equations:

\[8x^2-2xy^2 = 6y = 3x^2+3x^3y^2\]
 
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lfdahl said:
Find all the real numbers $x$ and $y$, that satisfy the following equations:

\[8x^2-2xy^2 = 6y = 3x^2+3x^3y^2\]
my solution:
let $A=8x^2-2xy^2 $
$B= 6y$
$C= 3x^2+3x^3y^2$
from $A,B$ we have $xy^2+3y-4x^2=0-----(1)$
from $B,C$ we have $x^3y^2-2y+x^2=0-----(2)$
$(1)+(2)\times 4$ we get:
$y^2(4x^3+x)=5y$
so $y=0,x=0 $ or $y=\dfrac {5}{4x^3+x}---(3)$
put (3) to (1) or (2) we obtain all the solutions
but a simpler way :
for (3) is symmetric to the line : $y=x$
the solutions of A,B,C must lie on the line $x-y=0$
we may set $y=x$ and from (A)(B) we get:
$8x^2-2x^3=6x$
$x(x-1)(x-3)=0,$
that is $x=0,1,3$
but $x=3$ does not satisfy (2)
so all the real numbers $x$ and $y$, that satisfy the given equations:
are $(x,y)=(0,0)$ or $(x,y)=(1,1)$
 
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Albert said:
my solution:
let $A=8x^2-2xy^2 $
$B= 6y$
$C= 3x^2+3x^3y^2$
from $A,B$ we have $xy^2+3y-4x^2=0-----(1)$
from $B,C$ we have $x^3y^2-2y+x^2=0-----(2)$
$(1)+(2)\times 4$ we get:
$y^2(4x^3+x)=5y$
so $y=0,x=0 $ or $y=\dfrac {5}{4x^3+x}---(3)$
put (3) to (1) or (2) we obtain all the solutions
but a simpler way :
for (3) is symmetric to the line : $y=x$
the solutions of A,B,C must lie on the line $x-y=0$
we may set $y=x$ and from (A)(B) we get:
$8x^2-2x^3=6x$
$x(x-1)(x-3)=0,$
that is $x=0,1,3$
but $x=3$ does not satisfy (2)
so all the real numbers $x$ and $y$, that satisfy the given equations:
are $(x,y)=(0,0)$ or $(x,y)=(1,1)$

Bravo, Albert! A very nice solution! Thankyou for your participation.
 
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Albert said:
my solution:
let $A=8x^2-2xy^2 $
$B= 6y$
$C= 3x^2+3x^3y^2$
from $A,B$ we have $xy^2+3y-4x^2=0-----(1)$
from $B,C$ we have $x^3y^2-2y+x^2=0-----(2)$
$(1)+(2)\times 4$ we get:
$y^2(4x^3+x)=5y$
so $y=0,x=0 $ or $y=\dfrac {5}{4x^3+x}---(3)$
put (3) to (1) or (2) we obtain all the solutions
but a simpler way :
for (3) is symmetric to the line : $y=x$
the solutions of A,B,C must lie on the line $x-y=0$
we may set $y=x$ and from (A)(B) we get:
$8x^2-2x^3=6x$
$x(x-1)(x-3)=0,$
that is $x=0,1,3$
but $x=3$ does not satisfy (2)
so all the real numbers $x$ and $y$, that satisfy the given equations:
are $(x,y)=(0,0)$ or $(x,y)=(1,1)$
how do you know that this the only real solution??

For e.g the equation: ax+b=c ,has a solution : x =c-b/a ,a different to zero.

But we can prove that this solution is unique

The same we can prove for the equation :\(\displaystyle ax^2+bx+c=0\),\(\displaystyle a\neq 0\)

The OP wants all the real solutions
 
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solakis said:
how do you know that this the only real solution??

For e.g the equation: ax+b=c ,has a solution : x =c-b/a ,a different to zero.

But we can prove that this solution is unique

The same we can prove for the equation :\(\displaystyle ax^2+bx+c=0\),\(\displaystyle a\neq 0\)

The OP wants all the real solutions
$A,B\,\,and \,C $ are not symmetric to $y=x$
but their solutions $y=\dfrac {5}{4x^3+x}$ do
so they must situate on $x-y=0$, or the line :$x=y$
with this in mind and searching back we can find all the solutions
 

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What is the equation asking me to solve?

The equation is asking you to find the values of x and y that make the equation true.

What is the degree of this equation?

The degree of an equation is the highest exponent of any variable. In this case, the highest exponent is 3, so the equation is a third-degree equation.

Can this equation be solved algebraically?

Yes, this equation can be solved algebraically by using techniques such as factoring or the quadratic formula.

Is there a specific method I should use to solve this equation?

There is no specific method that must be used to solve this equation. You can choose the method that you are most comfortable with or that seems most appropriate for the equation.

Are there any restrictions on the values of x and y in this equation?

Yes, there are restrictions on the values of x and y in this equation. For example, since there are no square roots in this equation, the values of x and y must be real numbers. Additionally, the equation may have unique solutions or multiple solutions, depending on the values of the coefficients.

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