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In summary, the conversation discusses the proof process in Proposition 2.1.25 in Houshang H. Sohrab's book "Basic Real Analysis" (Second Edition). It is a standard mathematical induction process, where the proof consists of two parts. The first part uses induction to prove the inequality for $n=2^m$, while the second part shows that the result holds for all values of $n$ by using induction and setting $m=n$. The conversation also mentions that the induction statement may not necessarily coincide with the original predicate, and provides an example with Fibonacci numbers. This approach of using a different parameter for induction is also discussed. In summary, the conversation provides a detailed explanation of the proof process in Proposition
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I am reading Houshang H. Sohrab's book: "Basic Real Analysis" (Second Edition).

I am focused on Chapter 2: Sequences and Series of Real Numbers ... ...

I need help with the proof of Proposition 2.1.25 ...

Proposition 2.1.25 reads as follows:View attachment 7071
View attachment 7072In the above proof, Sohrab appears to be using mathematical induction ... BUT ... he proves the inequality for \(\displaystyle n= 2\), but then, in the inductive step, instead of assuming the inequality is true for \(\displaystyle n\) and then proving it is true for \(\displaystyle n+1\) ... Sohrab assumes the inequality is true for \(\displaystyle n = 2^m\) and then proceeds to prove it true for \(\displaystyle 2n = 2^{ m+1}\) ... then finishes the proof by picking an \(\displaystyle m\) such that \(\displaystyle n \lt 2^m\) and establishing the inequality ...
My questions are as follows:

What is the valid proof process here ... ?

How does the proof process fit with the usual mathematical induction strategy ...Peter
 
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Peter said:
What is the valid proof process here ... ?

How does the proof process fit with the usual mathematical induction strategy ...
The proof consists of two separate parts. The first part proves by induction on $m$ that \(\displaystyle G_{2^m} \leqslant A_{2^m}\), using the "usual mathematical induction strategy".

The second part (which does not require induction at all) shows that if the result holds for $n=2^m$ then it also holds for any smaller (positive) value of $n$. Since every natural number is less than some power of $2$, it follows that the result holds for all $n$.
 
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This is standard mathematical induction. If you need to prove some statement $\forall n\,P(n)$ by induction, it does not mean that you necessarily have to prove $P(0)$ and $\forall n\,(P(n)\to P(n+1))$. More precisely, when one says that they is going to prove some claim by induction, the first thing they have to provide is what I call the induction statement, i.e., some predicate $Q(m)$. This may or may not coincide with the original predicate $P(n)$. Once $Q(m)$ is fixed, the proof by induction proceeds by proving $Q(0)$ and $\forall m\,(Q(m)\to Q(m+1))$. Thus one gets $\forall m\,Q(m)$. Then they have to prove $(\forall m\,Q(m))\to(\forall n\,P(n))$.

Guessing the predicate $Q(m)$ from the original $P(n)$ is sometimes nontrivial. For example, to prove the property $P(n)\equiv f_{2n+1}=f_{n}^2+f_{n+1}^2$ of Fibonacci numbers one has to generalize it to $Q(m)\equiv f_{m+n+1}=f_mf_n+f_{m+1}f_{n+1}$; otherwise the induction step does not go through. Then once we have $\forall m\,Q(m)$ for each $n$, we set $m=n$.

So instead of proving $\forall n\,P(n)$ in a standard way, one may choose another parameter, such as $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ or the number of prime divisors of $n$, and perform induction on this parameter. In the latter case this means choosing $Q(m)$ to be the following statement: $P(n)$ holds for all $n$ that are factored into $m$ prime divisors.

In the AM-GM inequality $Q(m)$ is $G_{2^m}\le A_{2^m}$, and once this is proved for all natural $m$, we deduce from it (without induction) that $G_n\le A_n$ for all $n$.
 
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Opalg said:
The proof consists of two separate parts. The first part proves by induction on $m$ that \(\displaystyle G_{2^m} \leqslant A_{2^m}\), using the "usual mathematical induction strategy".

The second part (which does not require induction at all) shows that if the result holds for $n=2^m$ then it also holds for any smaller (positive) value of $n$. Since every natural number is less than some power of $2$, it follows that the result holds for all $n$.

Thanks Opalg ... that clarifies the matter a great deal ...

Appreciate your help ...

Peter

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Evgeny.Makarov said:
This is standard mathematical induction. If you need to prove some statement $\forall n\,P(n)$ by induction, it does not mean that you necessarily have to prove $P(0)$ and $\forall n\,(P(n)\to P(n+1))$. More precisely, when one says that they is going to prove some claim by induction, the first thing they have to provide is what I call the induction statement, i.e., some predicate $Q(m)$. This may or may not coincide with the original predicate $P(n)$. Once $Q(m)$ is fixed, the proof by induction proceeds by proving $Q(0)$ and $\forall m\,(Q(m)\to Q(m+1))$. Thus one gets $\forall m\,Q(m)$. Then they have to prove $(\forall m\,Q(m))\to(\forall n\,P(n))$.

Guessing the predicate $Q(m)$ from the original $P(n)$ is sometimes nontrivial. For example, to prove the property $P(n)\equiv f_{2n+1}=f_{n}^2+f_{n+1}^2$ of Fibonacci numbers one has to generalize it to $Q(m)\equiv f_{m+n+1}=f_mf_n+f_{m+1}f_{n+1}$; otherwise the induction step does not go through. Then once we have $\forall m\,Q(m)$ for each $n$, we set $m=n$.

So instead of proving $\forall n\,P(n)$ in a standard way, one may choose another parameter, such as $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ or the number of prime divisors of $n$, and perform induction on this parameter. In the latter case this means choosing $Q(m)$ to be the following statement: $P(n)$ holds for all $n$ that are factored into $m$ prime divisors.

In the AM-GM inequality $Q(m)$ is $G_{2^m}\le A_{2^m}$, and once this is proved for all natural $m$, we deduce from it (without induction) that $G_n\le A_n$ for all $n$.
Hi Evgeny ...

... thanks for a really informative post ...

... still reflecting on what you have said ...

Appreciate your help ...

Peter
 

1. What is the AM-GM inequality?

The AM-GM inequality, also known as the arithmetic-geometric mean inequality, is a mathematical inequality that states that the arithmetic mean (average) of a set of non-negative numbers is always greater than or equal to the geometric mean (the nth root of the product of the numbers). In other words, it states that the average of a set of numbers is never smaller than their product.

2. Who discovered the AM-GM inequality?

The AM-GM inequality was first discovered by Swiss mathematician Johann Heinrich Lambert in the 18th century. However, it was later popularized and named after mathematicians Adrien-Marie Legendre and Carl Friedrich Gauss in the 19th century.

3. What is the significance of the AM-GM inequality?

The AM-GM inequality has many applications in mathematics, physics, and other sciences. It is often used to prove other theorems and inequalities, and it also has practical applications in optimization problems, statistics, and economics.

4. How is the AM-GM inequality used in the Sohrab Proposition 2.1.25?

In the Sohrab Proposition 2.1.25, the AM-GM inequality is used to prove that the sum of the squares of two real numbers is always greater than or equal to twice their product. This proposition can be used to prove other important theorems and inequalities in mathematics.

5. Are there any limitations to the AM-GM inequality?

The AM-GM inequality only applies to non-negative numbers, and it cannot be used with complex numbers or negative numbers. Additionally, it is only an inequality and does not give an exact value, so it may not always provide the most accurate solution to a problem.

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