Why is the integral of 1/x from -1 to 1 divergent?

In summary, the integral of 1/x from -1 to 1 is considered divergent because 0 is excluded from the function's domain. While the limit of the integral may be zero, it does not match the definition of an integral on [-1,1]. The difference lies in the method of evaluation, with improper integrals leading to undefined results and principal value integrals resulting in a cancellation of the two integrals to give zero. Unless specified, the default assumption is that the integral is improper.
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Hey guys, could someone help explain to me why the integral of 1/x from -1 to 1 is considered divergent? It would seem as if the area underneath the function cancels out with each other to give you the result of zero, but apparently this is not the case.

Thanks!
 
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The integral does not exist because the interval [-1,1] does not lie in the domain of the function. That's because 0 is excluded from the domain. So the expression ##\int_{-1}^1\frac{dx}{x}## is meaningless.
The closest you can come is to calculate
$$g(x)\equiv\lim_{\delta\to 0}\left[\int_{-1}^{-\delta}\frac{dx}{x}+\int_{\delta}^{1}\frac{dx}{x}\right]$$
which will be zero. But that does not match the definition of an integral on [-1,1] because, as stated above, the integral is not defined.
 
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It is the difference between an improper integral and a principal value integral.

In the former, we need to evaluate
##\lim_{x\to0} \int_{-1}^{x} \frac{1}{t} dt + \lim_{y\to0} \int_{y}^1 \frac{1}{t}dt##.
Notice that x and y are independent of each other. If you take the limit of x faster* than y, you will evaluate ##-\infty##. If you let y converge faster than x, you will evaluate ##\infty##. These don't match hence the integral is undefined.

With PV integrals we need eavluate
##\lim_{\epsilon \to 0} \left(\int_{-1}^{-\epsilon} \frac{1}{t}dt + \int_{\epsilon}^{1}\frac{1}{t}dt \right)##
Notice how they converge from both sides at the same rate. Hence the two integrals always cancel leaving zero.

Unless you explicitly state principal value, the default is to assume improper as it is more useful in applications.

* Aside: you should try to think of limits as a process that converges to anything, but in the this example it works.
 

1. What is the meaning of "divergent" in this context?

Divergent in this context means that the integral does not have a finite value and therefore does not converge.

2. Why is the integral of 1/x from -1 to 1 considered divergent?

This integral is considered divergent because the function 1/x has a vertical asymptote at x=0 and therefore the area under the curve from -1 to 1 is infinite.

3. Can this integral still be evaluated using traditional methods?

No, traditional methods of integration cannot be used for this integral because it does not have a finite value.

4. Is there a way to find the value of this integral?

No, there is no way to find the value of this integral as it is considered divergent.

5. Are there any real-life applications of this concept?

Yes, this concept of divergent integrals is used in various fields such as physics and engineering to calculate infinite quantities, such as the work done by a force over an infinite distance.

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