The moon would have the same effect, anything orbiting it would change angle slightly over a long period of time, and over a longer period would rotate.
The moon also has a geodetic precession, which showed up in the results from 25 years of laser ranging. NB, the formula for the geodetic effect in the picture posted above is now not the only formula for it, the other one gives almost identical numbers, so curvature is not the only...
Thanks Garth, and perhaps I should say thanks from all of us for what you've done on this over the last few years.
NB. The predictions you posted for my theory PSG are correct, but not the link to them, which is here http://journalgp.awardspace.com/journal/0202/020203.pdf
'A derivation of...
Thanks Garth,
Just to point out that the link you posted with PSG theory was the wrong one, it should be
http://journalgp.awardspace.com/journal/0202/020203.pdf
That's the paper (in a peer reviewed journal), "A derivation of the geodetic effect without space curvature", with the equation...
Hello,
Thanks for the references, if we discuss it in detail it should be elsewhere (or we'll find ourselves there anyway!). But to make something clear - I don't believe in an ether, that was disproved. The original ether was thought to behave rather like matter behaves - unconventional...
Hello Garth and all,
I just want to point out that strictly because of the very nature of this thread Garth you're not in a position to say "It is this curvature of space-time that cause the geodetic precession and frame-dragging effects that GP-B measured."
There may be other theories...
Thanks Garth,
I appreciate being back on the list. The relevant link is to the second paper published, not the first, as it has the equation that directly produces the geodetic effect curvature component, so vindicating PSG and leading to the prediction you quote above. (And showing that...
Hello Garth and all.
As well as working on until at least the end of next year, looks like they might announce some interim results towards the end of this year.. though you never know. Garth, are you going to redo the list? There were several updates to be made a while ago.
best wishes...
Ps
PS perhaps I can give some indication of the kind of thing I mean, using an analogy. When light is refracted around a curve, for example when traveling through an index gradient refractive medium on Earth, does the light undergo an acceleration? No, instead it thinks it is traveling in a...
There's no acceleration, for the same reasons as there's none in GR. The conceptual picture is one that is surprisingly like curvature, and yet it comes from flat space - it involves a small cluster of lateral jumps. An orbiting object thinks it is traveling in a straight line, and follows a...
Ps
PS. To clarify the first point above, the anomaly is too small to falsify everything at the GR value instantly, making KK theory the new standard view. Both GR and PSG could potentially survive that, but both could be falsified if the final results contained figures further from the GR...
Thanks Garth,
I have the same predictions as GR, but if the anomaly found in the early geodetic results remains (and the delaying of the May announcement perhaps makes it slightly more likely that it is still there) I don't think that everyone will say "Ah well, GR was falsified, too bad". In...
Hello Garth and everyone,
well, it seems GP-B may be a long road. My paper on the geodetic effect got through peer review, it's at
http://journalgp.awardspace.com/journal/0202/020203.pdf
PSG gives the same predictions as GR and NG, hope to see it on the list with them, presumably...
I have a correction to the equation in post #255, it's 'arctan' rather than '2 arctan', and the positions of the second r and the r' are reversed above the line. I'd only just found it at the time - there's also a slightly more accurate version of the equation, but both give the same numbers for...