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    A Ball Rolling : What forces are involved?

    you must also account for normal force that exerts from the ground on the ball
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    Can Newton's Laws Predict the Motion of a Mass on a Rotating Inclined Cylinder?

    you said" "When the funnel starts rotating, do you mean that the block remains at rest at the bottom?" my answer: yes I think so. If there is not any friction then the block will remain at the bottom of the funnel.
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    Can Newton's Laws Predict the Motion of a Mass on a Rotating Inclined Cylinder?

    OK but "some force towards the center" is not a force that comes magically when the mass rotates. This force is simply the sum of two forces; gravity and normal force. you may ask the normal and gravity forces exist when the block does not rotate. Yes but the magnitude of N is different when...
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    Can Newton's Laws Predict the Motion of a Mass on a Rotating Inclined Cylinder?

    yes you are right. But pay attention that from an inertial observer's point of view (for example someone stands on the ground) there are only two forces: N and mg. Ok you may say "so, how the block can remain at its place without sliding" and the answer is: "For someone outside the funnel i.e...
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    Can Newton's Laws Predict the Motion of a Mass on a Rotating Inclined Cylinder?

    evidently this is m*g*sin(theta) and its direction is parallel to the inclined surface of the funnel. Any way we have only two forces mg and N.
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    Can Newton's Laws Predict the Motion of a Mass on a Rotating Inclined Cylinder?

    yes the N vector can be shown by the sum of two components: Nsin(theta)*i + Ncos(theta)*j which i and j are unit vectors of cartesian coordination. we can also write mg like: -mg*j also the vector representation of acceleration is: -a*i Then we write the sum of forces: F = ma (F and a...
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    Can Newton's Laws Predict the Motion of a Mass on a Rotating Inclined Cylinder?

    thanks. but don't forget that centripetal force is not a real force. That is, when you draw free diagram of forces you don't include such a force. In free diagram you just enter Normal force, Gravity and friction (if exists). Then you set the sum of these vectors to m*a which a is the...
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    Can Newton's Laws Predict the Motion of a Mass on a Rotating Inclined Cylinder?

    Homework Statement We have an inclined cylinder, something like a funnel, which rotates around its symmetrical axis. A mass (m) resides on the wall of this cylinder and rotates with the cylinder. Now the angular velocity of the cylinder increases. Whether the Newton laws (or else) can...
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    The friction force comes from where?

    Thanks. We reached the good point now. Consider a rotating disc with a mass on it without motion with respect to the disc. As you mentioned above this a case of static friction with the limitation equals to μN. Now the angular velocity of the disc (W) begins to increase. The maximum angular...
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    The friction force comes from where?

    ok i accept. But you did not answer the question. What is the direction of the friction with respect to the motion. Suppose that the motion is shown with a vector. For example vector X for displacement. Can you show the direction of the friction force?
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    The friction force comes from where?

    Homework Statement We always encounter this expression: "Friction always opposes the motion". But what does it mean exactly? For example when we push a heavy box and it does not move we consider the friction opposite to the applied force. The second case when the box moves. In this case if we...
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