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    Graduate Časlav Brukner, Richard Healey, and von Weizsäcker on the wave function

    I'm sharing a link to a paper by Wiseman & Cavalcanti that compares the two versions of Bell's theorem and how the two different camps ("realists" and "operationalists") react to them. An earlier work by one of the authors (Wiseman), although very similar, delves much deeper into Bell's papers...
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    Graduate Časlav Brukner, Richard Healey, and von Weizsäcker on the wave function

    J. S. Bell, "The theory of local beables", Epistemological Lett. 9 (1976). Lucas.
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    Graduate Časlav Brukner, Richard Healey, and von Weizsäcker on the wave function

    I have the same feeling. There is much discussion about this, since the "locality" assumption that Bell defines in his 1964 paper is closely related to the idea of "parameter independence" or "non-signaling", rather than to his later "local causality". The problem is that the notion of locality...
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    Graduate Časlav Brukner, Richard Healey, and von Weizsäcker on the wave function

    Although I'm fully on board with the "operationalist" view, I agree that some passages in Englert's text are somewhat problematic, beyond what @Matterwave mentions about "violation of Bell's theorem" not being a good way to refer to "violation of Bell's inequalities." For example: "And just...
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    Graduate Resolution of the Frauchiger-Renner paradox

    I have to say I've never been a big "fan" of the Frauchiger-Renner no-go theorem because of these kinds of issues. I find local friendliness no-go theorem much clearer. Continuing somewhat with what I said in the previous post, I think part of the discussion surrounding the Frachiger-Renner...
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    Graduate Resolution of the Frauchiger-Renner paradox

    While what you say isn't "wrong", of course, it's not how things are usually viewed in an ##\psi##-epistemic interpretation like QBism or RQM. Let me explain. In RQM, the central role is played by events ("the friend saw spin up"), and the wave function is only (and nothing more than) a way to...
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    Graduate Časlav Brukner, Richard Healey, and von Weizsäcker on the wave function

    Oh, I think I understand what you're saying now. Assumption (ii) about "definite outcomes" is a way of saying that it's a single-world interpretation. That is, when the friend measures the spin of the particle, he obtains a definitive result (spin up, for example) and that's the end of it, there...
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    Graduate Časlav Brukner, Richard Healey, and von Weizsäcker on the wave function

    I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're saying, but in any case, I think an example might help. Let's take the Wigner's friend experiment. Suppose that when the friend measures the spin of the particle in the z-direction, he observes spin up. Therefore, spin up is a fact relative to the...
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    Graduate Časlav Brukner, Richard Healey, and von Weizsäcker on the wave function

    To learn about Brukner's point of view, you can read this paper. Lucas.
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    Graduate Časlav Brukner, Richard Healey, and von Weizsäcker on the wave function

    PBR theorem rules out ontological models in which the wave function plays an epistemic role. Common ##\psi##-epistemic interpretations (Copenhagen, QBism, RQM) do not correspond to ontological models, since they presuppose that the wave function is the most complete possible representation of a...
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    Graduate Resolution of the Frauchiger-Renner paradox

    Since I don't think anyone has mentioned it before, I'm sharing this paper where Del Rio and Renner respond to Polychronakos' work. Lucas.
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    Graduate Resolution of the Frauchiger-Renner paradox

    Since I am a "relational guy" :wink: I would like to clarify a few points about how RQM deals with Wigner's friend experiment. The description is correct, but I would remove the word "effective," as it suggests that there is another, more fundamental state than the one assigned by the friend...
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    Graduate Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics

    In order not to distract the discussion too much, I would like to focus on this statement because I think it is the core of the confusion. Before the swap, the quantum state is (eq. (1) in Ma's paper): ##\ket{\psi}_{1234} = \ket{\psi^-}_{12} \otimes \ket{\psi^-}_{34}## As I demonstrated, it...
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    Graduate Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics

    As I said before, my previous #198 is not a suggestion that Ma's eq. (1) and (2) are the same, but rather a mathematical proof. Seriously, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to help. It is not my intention to confront on personal terms. In fact, I appreciate the vehement way you discuss...
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    Graduate Entanglement swapping and Bohmian mechanics

    I have provided you with a mathematical proof that Ma's eq. (1) and (2) are the same. If you don't understand we can help you, but stop talking nonsense. Lucas.