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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    Thanks for the help. I'll have to hold off on the heat exchanger for now until I free up some time. I'll definitely get back to it at some point and I'll post about it. Thanks for the help with the problem in general.
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    Yeah. Using your way you get -15.9 kW. So, they're fairly close. If you were to say the pump is about 80% efficient then, 19.875 kJ/s needs to be supplied to the pump for the water to be pumped from ##P_{atm}## to 1.69 MPa.
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    I was thinking it was a little low alright. Why isn't it ##C_v## as opposed to ##C_p## in the above equation though? h = u + Pv, so ##\Delta h = \Delta u + \Delta Pv## and ##\Delta u = C_v \Delta T## no?
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    It's just one stream so ##m_{in}## will equal ##m_{out}##, yes? If so, then: $$W = m(h_{in} - h_{out})$$ We're given the mass flow rate so we'll end up with the equation: $$\dot{W} = \dot{m} (h_{in} - h_{out})$$ Is this correct? The water is initially at 20 C and atmospheric presure, thus it's...
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    I'm currently taking thermo. I think our terminology may be different to yours, or else I'm not following. A flow system, as in a control volume at steady state? One form of the first law which comes to mind that may be applicable to the pump is is: $$Q - W + \Sigma m_{in}h_{in} - \Sigma...
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    I see. I'll have a look into that now and then try play around with the possible values of N, D and L that may be a little more suitable. Could we leave the HE for now and focus on the final part, the pump, briefly? I feel like I may be going into a little too much detail with the HE as we...
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    Thanks. I guess 85 m^2 isn't really all that big relative to the size of some HEs in industry.
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    I see. Well, rearranging the above equation you get:$$NDL = 27 m^2$$ To avoid having the heat exchanger being impractically long, L has to be capped and to avoid having the tubes too wide so does D. That leaves N. I'm not really sure what the value of N is usually. I mean, I know it must...
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    Sorry about those blunders. I ended up trying to fly through the calculation and obviously wasn't taking much care. So, the heat transfer area is 85 m^2. Would this be considered large or about the norm for the sort of process in question? Can't really tell myself as I don't have too much...
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    That equation is completely alien to me, but I assume I'll cover it some time over the next year. ##A = \frac{Q}{h\Delta T}## Just edited this post as I made a mistake with the LMTD. I had thought you made a mistake using 160C and 30C as your temps but it was actually just me not fully...
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    The only reason I bring it up, is because in the problem statement it states 'Consider briefly the issues of pressure relief, recycle and isolation'. I though that this was a good opportunity to think about recycle. It was just a thought really. Though, I was more so thinking that the water...
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    Actually, I just got my hands on Transport Phenomena an had a quick look at chapter 14. While most of it is quite out of context, as I haven't studied Transport Phenomena before, I found the table of heat transfer coefficients. Is what we have in this case, Forced Convection? (Seeing as there's...
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    Process Eng: Water heating system

    I think determining the heat transfer coefficient is a little too involved for the purpose of the current module that I'm taking. I'm not so sure that our lecturer would expect us to be able to design a HE in great detail seeing as haven't covered that yet. I'll ask him though just to be sure...
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