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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    Thank you dx like before, you are giving me the most precise answer that I possibly can get, it seems even before I post my new question you knew what is in my mind!
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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    So, can I say that e.g. "Pi1(S^1)=Z" means that: "The set of homotopy rel {0,1} classes of closed paths starting and ending at any point say x " in S^1 (which is a group) is homomorphic (actually isomorphic) to Z i.e. there is a homomorphism of groups between Pi1(S^1) and Z where "+ in Z"...
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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    Sorry for these easy quastions, but if you see my lec notes(pdf) you might agree that there are some ambguities there for some one like me.
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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    I mean for example in Pi1(S^2,1)={1}, this "{1}" exactly refers to what?
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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    I have a question to clear up definitions for myself: When we calculate (or talk about) Pi1(X,x) do we actually calculate |Pi1(X,x)|? I mean "the number of equivalent classes like [a] w.r.t x in X"? For example if that is the case I can imagine what Pi1(S^2,(1,0)) means, but if that is not the...
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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    Yes, I got that with your very nice and clear explanation. "Holes"! And what I learned from your answer is that when thinking about definitions don't let your brain to be lazy and bring the simplest possible space like R^2 (for example). Thank you very much
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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    I meant this, please see the attachement.
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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    Sorry, You did answer to the question number 1.
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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    Thank you for the great help, brief and efficient! Just to check that I am on the right track now, 1.Can I say this is related to (because of) "discontinuaty of the choice of paths" between A and B? 2. Can I say in an "8" shape for example the top part and the bottom parts belong to two...
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    What is the significance of Pi1(X,x) in understanding the fundamental group?

    What I understand from the definition of the fundamental group is: Pi1(X.x) is "the set of rel {0,1} homotopy classes [a] of closed paths" Ok, when I think about one [a] it consists of all: 1.Closed paths like a and b with a(0)=a(1)=x & b(0)=b(1)=x --->since they are closed. 2.And since...
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