Einstein vs Newton - Who is your favorite and why?

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I love both Einstein and Newton, and I’m sure I’ll get slammed for starting this question, but that’s okay I guess.

Who do you like more and why? I know this is an opinion, but I’m just curious on peoples opinions!

Please be nice to me! I’m not a professional physicist.
 
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Amelie Emmy Noether.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Amelie Emmy Noether.
Never heard of her! Checking her out now
 
BadgerBadger92 said:
Never heard of her! Checking her out now
Here is an article that mentions all three of them and answers the why question, plus Planck and Maxwell.
 
fresh_42 said:
Here is an article that mentions all three of them, plus Planck and Maxwell.
I didn’t get the article. Could you repost it?
 
The journey of Physics involves many steps, each essential.

The inspiration of Newton, with calculus, to order the earlier chaos.
Followed by the crowd at the Royal Society.
Faraday, the experimenter, with Maxwell the formaliser.
Hertz the experimenter, and Heaviside the rationaliser.
Then the inspiration of Einstein, to extract Special Relativity.

In the sequential journey of Physics, will there ever be a destination ?
 
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BadgerBadger92 said:
I love both Einstein and Newton, and I’m sure I’ll get slammed for starting this question, but that’s okay I guess.

Who do you like more and why? I know this is an opinion, but I’m just curious on peoples opinions!
Newton
His work was the groundwork for later discoveries.
 
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Einstein and Newton were educated men of their times. Issac Newton, for example, lived in time of plague that often interfered with research and meeting with colleagues. Albert Einstein faced severe antisemitism in Europe depriving him of scholarships and research positions in academia. Revisionist history pretends Einstein struggled to land a job as a patent clerk due to incompetence or inability to work in advanced academia while the truth revolved around ethnic hatred.

Of the two men I like Einstein more than Newton. Einstein was funny and interesting, playing jokes and puns with friends, family and colleagues. By most reports Newton was reserved and dignified but not a humorous person. His religious fervor particularly late in life contradicts his brilliant work. While difficult to judge value from a modern remove, Relativity remains a staggering revelation.

Both were great persons of their time and continue to influence many people.
 
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Gavran said:
Newton
His work was the groundwork for later discoveries.
A truism.
The last one in is a rotten egg.
 
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The choices were rather limited.

Newton - astrologist, and Leibniz was 10 years earlier (Paris, 1676)
Pythagoras - silly numerologist
Einstein - from Swabia, not my favorite Germanic tribe

I stick with Noether, about whom Einstein wrote:
 
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I'd say that Archimedes, Newton, and Einstein are the big three beyond compare. Galileo was no slouch either.

These men more than any others are responsible for the modern technological world and were surely among the most influential in all of history. For better or worse.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I stick with Noether, about whom Einstein wrote:

The image doesn't show for me. Which Noether? Max or Emmy? (I know yiou said in post #2, just pointing out that the father is famous too)
 
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martinbn said:
The image doesn't show for me.
The New York Times
Saturday, May 4, 1935
THE LATE EMMY NOETHER.

Professor Einstein Writes in Appreciation of a Fellow-Mathematician.

To the Editor of The New York Times:
The efforts of most human beings are consumed in the struggle for their daily bread, but most of those who are, either through fortune or some special gift, relieved of this struggle are largely absorbed in further improving their worldly lot. Beneath the effort directed toward the accumulation of worldly goods lies all too frequently the illusion that this is the most substantial and desirable end to be achieved; but there is, fortunately, a minority composed of those who recognize early in their lives that the most beautiful and satisfying experiences open to humankind are not derived from the outside, but are bound up with the development of the individual's own feeling, thinking and acting. The genuine artists, investigators and thinkers have always been persons of this kind. However inconspicuously the life of these individuals runs its course, none the less the fruits of their endeavors are the most valuable contributions which one generation can make to its successors.

Within the past few days a distinguished mathematician, Professor Emmy Noether, formerly connected with the University of Goettingen and for the past two years at Bryn Mawr College, died in her fifty-third year. In the judgment of the most competent living mathematicians, Fraeulein Noether was the most significant creative mathematical genius thus far produced since the higher education of women began. In the realm of algebra, in which the most gifted mathematicians have been busy for centuries, she discovered methods which have proved of enormous importance in the development of the present-day younger generation of mathematicians. Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas. One seeks the most general ideas of operation which will bring together in simple, logical and unified form the largest possible circle of formal relationships. In this effort toward logical beauty spiritual formulae are discovered necessary for the deeper penetration into the laws of nature.

Born in a Jewish family distinguished for the love of learning, Emmy Noether, who, in spite of the efforts of the great Goettingen mathematician, Hilbert, never reached the academic standing due her in her own country, none the less surrounded herself with a group of students and investigators at Goettingen, who have already become distinguished as teachers and investigators. Her unselfish, significant work over a period of many years was rewarded by the new rulers of Germany with a dismissal, which cost her the means of maintaining her simple life and the opportunity to carry on her mathematical studies. Farsighted friends of science in this country were fortunately able to make such arrangements at Bryn Mawr College and at Princeton that she found in America up to the day of her death not only colleagues who esteemed her friendship but grateful pupils whose enthusiasm made her last: years the happiest and perhaps the most fruitful of her entire career.

ALBERT EINSTEIN.

Princeton University, May 1, 1935.
 
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Baluncore said:
A truism.
The last one in is a rotten egg.
And what is your answer? Einstein or Newton? Please choose one, not both of them.
 
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That's a tough choice! Newton set the stage, Einstein rewrote the script, but I think Noether gave us the ultimate backstage pass. Without her elegant symmetries, bridging the classical and modern eras would be far harder. A true master.
 
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"Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: / God said, Let Newton be! and all was light." - Alexander Pope

"It did not last: the Devil howling “Ho! Let Einstein be!” restored the status quo."
 
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Newton was a lot more influential but that was just luck because he was first. As someone said, "the order of the Universe can only be found once."

Much have I travell'd in the realms of gold,
And many goodly states and kingdoms seen;
Round many western islands have I been
Which bards in fealty to Apollo hold.
Oft of one wide expanse had I been told
That deep-brow'd Homer ruled as his demesne;
Yet did I never breathe its pure serene
Till I heard Chapman speak out loud and bold:
Then felt I like some watcher of the skies
When a new planet swims into his ken;
Or like stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
He stared at the Pacific—and all his men
Look'd at each other with a wild surmise—
Silent, upon a peak in Darien.

-- John Keats
 

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