Some Trap Drumming I Like

[Hornbein]

Unique line drumming. Such an original. John French.



For heavy beat drumming I can't get enough of 임영은 (Yeong eun). Catchy tune.

 

[Hornbein]

Senri Kawaguchi at age 15 possibly already the best bebop drummer in history. I love what saxophonist Yukiko Onishi does too but she gave this up to be a celebrity. Too bad. Gotta pay the bills and unlike drums with alto sax it's hard to find work backing up others.

 

[pinball1970]

Senri Kawaguchi at age 15 possibly already the best bebop drummer in history.

In history? Not the stuff I usually listen to but I like this.

 

[pinball1970]

Crazy snare work

 

[pinball1970]

With Harry James 1964

 

[pinball1970]

In history? Not the stuff I usually listen to but I like this.

Just to add, absolutely not his greatest performance, no one can say when that was since he was the world's best every decade he played.
For me no one has come close to his prowess since he died, I keep listening but for me no, nobody close.

 

[pinball1970]

Normally he is in a confined setting, a solo within a chart. Check this out.
Nobody human has done anything like this.

 

[pinball1970]

1985 gig in San Francisco

Channel one suite from 37 minutes on is one of his famous ones. There is a Be Bop feel from 46.30 when they come back in after the sax solo and drum solo from 43.30 onwards.
I could break parts down but it would take a while, he uses so many different techniques but with a minimal two tom single peddle kit. He has two floor toms but he stopped using his 18" in the 70s I think, he used it to put his stuff on, towel etc.

 

[pinball1970]

Just on the title of your OP

 

[pinball1970]

5.55 he starts

 

[pinball1970]

More from traps..

2.21 How many unique techniques here? Always linked together in a different way, he never repeated himself.

 

[Hornbein]

"Senri Kawaguchi at age 15 possibly already the best bebop drummer in history."

In history? Not the stuff I usually listen to but I like this.

I'd say the best bebop drummer in history was Max Roach. Never heard anything else quite like it. And he had the stamp of approval from the bigshots.



Charlie Parker remains my fave speedy soloist of all time. Every note has an individual inflection. Lot's of swing and rhythmic variety. I wish more would play like that. I avoid featureless strings of 16th notes. Even supergenius JS Bach was prone to this.

Ballads were his weakness. For that there's Stan Getz, John Coltrane, and Saori Yano. Saori gets pretty close to Parker with the speedy stuff too. Lately showing more Coltrane influence, though live only not on records.

Recently Kanade Sato is giving Senri a run for her money. J people believe improvement should continue lifelong -- you should be at your peak shortly before death. Where will this all end?

 

[pinball1970]

best bebop drummer in history was Max Roach

I just watched a video of his, not impressed. If he is the best in history I'm in with a shout.

 

[pinball1970]

I hate this sort of solo.

 

[pinball1970]

You think any of that is in the same league as this?