Changing PCB trace pitch as a way to controll sdd21

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Hello , I tried to build a differential line and controll the SDD21 as shown in the photo.
SDD21=S21-S41

i tried to increase the absolute s41 but the sdd21 is the difference between two complex and as you can see in the photo.
i cant get the sdd21 smaller.
Where did i go wrong?
Thanks.
 
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  • Schematic of a coupled microstrip pair in a circuit simulator: two MCLIN coupled-line blocks with Term1 to Term4 ports at 50 Ohm, labelled W=0.127475 mm, S=0.161794 mm, L=6.106900 mm.
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  • Screenshot of an ADS MCLIN coupled microstrip line component window with substrate parameters (Er 9.6, H 10 mil), physical dimensions W 0.127475 mm, S 0.161794 mm, L 6.106900 mm, ZE 80 Ohm, ZO 50 Ohm, and calculated results KE 6.735, KO 5.353.
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  • Line graph titled SDD21 Comparison plotting SDD21 in dB from 0 to 70 GHz for three traces: diff_1_12c, diff_1 and diff_1_12c_phase, all dipping below 0 dB at higher frequencies.
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yefj said:
i cant get the sdd21 smaller.
Where did i go wrong?
Paralysis by analysis.
Perfection is the enemy of progress.

I believe your sdd21 is the S parameter, with differential input, and differential output, of the forward transfer function, from port 1 to port 2.
For what you are doing, any loss below 0.01 dB loss is indistinguishable from perfection. You can model it, but it is unobtainable in the real world.

The impedance mismatch, in the manufacture of the connectors, and in the printing of the real PCB tracks, will exceed that.
 
Hello Baluncore, I was told that there are two kinds of differential lines.
Neck Down and Loosly Coupled.
The difference between them is that Neck down has attenuated SDD21,correct?
I tried to recreate this effect its not working.
How can I design the ND and LC lines to the the difference in SDD21.
Thanks.