How Do You Find the Closest Point to a Vector on a Line?

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The discussion revolves around finding the closest point from a vector A to a line defined by another vector B in the plane R2. Participants are exploring the implications of vector definitions and the geometric relationships between the vectors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to derive a formula for the closest point, with some expressing uncertainty about how to approach the problem. Questions arise regarding the definitions of vectors and their placements, particularly whether the vectors start from the origin or elsewhere. There is also a suggestion to visualize the problem through drawing.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on assumptions to make, such as considering both vectors emanating from the origin. Others have highlighted the need for clarification on the problem's specifics.

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There is a noted ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the definition of "the closest point" and the placement of vector B. Participants are encouraged to clarify these points before proceeding further.

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Homework Statement



Let A and B be given vectors in the plane R2. Find a formula for the closest point from A to the line along B.

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The idea is to derive an equation...

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The problem above is listed verbatim. I don't know how I would attempt it because I would just look at two vectors and say be able to see which point was closest. In other words, I have no idea how to derive a formula.
 
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"the closest point from A" seems a little vague. Why don't you assume the question is asking about the location of the "head" at (xa, ya) versus the tail at (0, 0) of A, a position vector.

There is a method from algebra for finding a line (that goes through a specific point) that is perpendicular to another line. Refresh your menmory on that and try it.
 
I have a question though. Can you/someone draw out what is going on?

Wouldn't the answer always be the the tail (0,0), because presumably the other vector, B, is also starting at the origin. Thus the two vectors are starting on top of each other?
 
I have a question though. Can you/someone draw out what is going on?
Not to be difficult, but why don't you do it? It's pretty easy. Use Microsoft Paint and post your image on photobucket (or equivalent) then insert the link. It is a worthwhile exercise.

Wouldn't the answer always be the the tail (0,0), because presumably the other vector, B, is also starting at the origin. Thus the two vectors are starting on top of each other?
I guess that's the easy way out. Heres the thing: a vector is not the same thing as a ray. A ray, loosely defined is half a line containing a tons of points. A vector is an entity possessing a magnitude (of something) and a direction, not so much "points". Vectors don't even need to be pinned down at the origin, like when you are doing head-to-tail vector addition. A displacement vector can also "float around" in space as long as the magnitude and direction information is preserved. For the sake of your question (which is sounding more ill-conceived the more I think about it), make the assumptions I suggested. Or better: talk with your teacher to seek clarification.
 
Okay, nice work. Yes, this problem bugs me too. Is the placement of B your own, or is that specified by the problem?
 
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That is my own drawing. I made up the placement of B.
 
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I don't know what else to suggest. When you get one of these kinds of problems, you can do at least 2 things: 1) If you have time, seek clarification from the authorities. 2) If pressed for time, state your assumptions, and submit something. I would suggest assuming that both vectors are constrained to emanate from the origin. Your reference point for vector A is at the "head" (xA, yB). The line along vector B would then be y = mBx + 0. You need to commit one of these actions before you can really start this problem (please feel free to use your own set of assumptions, if you like).
 
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