Goodbye Classic Skin - PF Prime Now Available

[Greg Bernhardt]

PF Classic Skin went into retirement late last year. However the time has come to put Classic to rest. Later tonight PF Prime will replace Classic as the alternative skin.

 

[mattmns]

I really like PF Prime, good job on it!

 

[z-component]

This is a sad day! Another milestone for PF. I have to say that I do like Prime a lot. Thanks again. :)

 

[Evo]

Plays "Taps".

go to "click here for a sound file of taps"

http://www.tapsbugler.com/TapsPDFandsound.html

A moment of silence please.

 

[devious_]

Nooooooooooooooooooo...

 

[mathwonk]

i do not like the two options. in fact i cannot stand them. they are really unusable, hard on the eys and slower loading. hence i am also in retirement for the time being, until i grow a new thicker skin.thanks for the memories. and good night missus calabash...(explain it to them, reaaally old guys.)

 

[Evo]

Oh come on, you can't have any complaints against prime.

 

[Garth]

I agree with mathwonk, I for another cannot stand Prime and miss the Classic skin. Why did it have to go? Cannot it be kept as an option?

Garth

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

If you two could be more descriptive on what things you don't like. I can see someone being indifferent to the skin, but it's a neutral skin with "cool" colors with no flash and less intensive graphics. How can you "hate" that?

 

[Lisa!]

Come on guys! You get to like this new skin even more than the classic. You know at first I couldn't stand the new skin and thought the colors are intolerable. But now I really get used to it. Anyway I guess you miss the classic skin because of your PF memories!

 

[devious_]

The new skins are too flashy and hard on the eyes. The old one was infinitely better.

 

[Garth]

If we have a selection of skins with different personal preferences for each, why delete one option that some find easiest on the eyes?

Garth

 

[matthyaouw]

I wasn't too keen on the new skin when it first came out, but after a week or two it'd really grown on me. Give them a while to get used to them, and then see what you think.

 

[Monique]

I do like Prime, it is not as grey and dark as Nexus

 

[cronxeh]

If we have a selection of skins with different personal preferences for each, why delete one option that some find easiest on the eyes?
Garth

My sentiments exactly. When my page loaded today I couldn't believe that there was no Classic skin

 

[theCandyman]

It is the same for me, I just switched to using Opera as a browser and was looking all over for how to change back to classic. I suppose I just have to say I am not a fan of everything trying to appear chrome.

 

[Monique]

At least all the contrasting lines have gone, this is much easier on the eyes. I especially like the low-profile edit/quote buttons. Sleek I do agree it the chrome is still dark, I wouldn't mind for the light grey to be a tone lighter (even though it is already lighter than the Nexus).

 

[Astronuc]

Prime is acceptable, but I am one of those who stayed with the older classic.

I prefer simplicity and I like the blue - or rather my visual cortex prefers the neurological response associated with the Classic scheme.

But I will adapt.

 

[physmike]

Indeed! Seconds, to that.
Where is the spectrum of choice for color options? ...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Garth
If we have a selection of skins with different personal preferences for each, why delete one option that some find easiest on the eyes?
Garth

My sentiments exactly. When my page loaded today I couldn't believe that there was no Classic skin

 

[Evo]

Most forums don't even offer a choice and you people are complaining that you have two to choose from! How about thanking Greg for going out of his way to create a second "no frills" skin?

 

[quantumdude]

That's it, I'm out of here.

 

[physmike]

Now we are like most forums, in terms of color choice.
And thanks to Greg, for the creativity, now and in the future. :-)


Evo Quote:
Most forums don't even offer a choice and you people are complaining that you have two to choose from! How about thanking Greg for going out of his way to create a second "no frills" skin?
__________________
I have Golden Mouse ears. °o°

 

[Garth]

I wasn't complaining about the Prime skin, and thank you Greg for being creative; many people like it.

It's just as I happen to prefer the old Classic why did it have to be deleted?

Garth

 

[Monique]

Because it is a lot of work to integrate the new features as they get added, when the two skins are too different.

 

[Garth]

Because it is a lot of work to integrate the new features as they get added, when the two skins are too different.

OK, thank you, that is all I wanted, an explanation.

Garth

 

[shmoe]

Hmm, I hadn't tried Prime before now. It's simpler than nexus, very good! Would it be hard to allow users to customize their own choice of colours, or to just allow a few different options with the same layout? I'd expect this could satisfy some of the 'hard on the eyes complaints'. A choice of this simpler skin is very much appreciated though!

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the columns in the forum index page aren't lining up with Prime. I mean between the "Science Education", "Physics", etc. categories, each seems to adjust the widths of the "forum", "last post", "threads", etc. columns seperately. (I'm using Firefox if it matters)

 

[Astronuc]

Most forums don't even offer a choice and you people are complaining that you have two to choose from! How about thanking Greg for going out of his way to create a second "no frills" skin?

Evo's right! Where are my manners!?

I am certainly thankful for the effort Greg and Warren (and Mentors) put into the forum.

I provided feedback without the appropriate acknowledgment of gratitude.

Thanks Greg!

 

[pervect]

I just noticed today that when I logged in, my "classic" skin was gone. Here is yet another vote for keeping it (the old "traditional skin") around if it is technically feasible.

If it is just a matter of not deleting some old files, _please_ keep the old skin availabe for us die-hards who like it.

 

[scott1]

Well there ever be any more skins created in the future?

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

Well there ever be any more skins created in the future?

Maybe in 2-3 years.

 

[The_Professional]

Plays "Taps".

go to "click here for a sound file of taps"

http://www.tapsbugler.com/TapsPDFandsound.html

A moment of silence please.

I prefer the printable type, so I could y'know sing it.

If you two could be more descriptive on what things you don't like. I can see someone being indifferent to the skin, but it's a neutral skin with "cool" colors with no flash and less intensive graphics. How can you "hate" that?

for me, it's the grey color. it's just bland (imho) which is why i prefer the plain blue-white color of the classic skin. but you know do what you have to do. no biggie

 

[physmike]

Hmm, I hadn't tried Prime before now. It's simpler than nexus, very good! Would it be hard to allow users to customize their own choice of colours, or to just allow a few different options with the same layout? I'd expect this could satisfy some of the 'hard on the eyes complaints'. A choice of this simpler skin is very much appreciated though!

Agree, the simple prime format is nice,
...liked the classic blue color though,
glad Opera has the yellow User mode, ...sunshine

 

[PIT2]

I also don't like the bland grey color. Its not only that its a little bit too bright to comfortably look at for long periods, but it makes the whole forum look boring.

 

[Astronuc]

OK, I am adapting to Prime.

However, it appears that the Journals area is not visible in the Prime skin, or am I being somewhat imperceptive?

And in the Nexus skin, I don't see the FAQ link.

 

[honestrosewater]

However, it appears that the Journals area is not visible in the Prime skin

Yep, Greg is fixing it.

 

[Moonbear]

I also don't like the bland grey color. Its not only that its a little bit too bright to comfortably look at for long periods, but it makes the whole forum look boring.

You don't like it because it's too bright, others don't like it because it's not bright enough. Are you all looking at the same forum? Incidentally, white is brighter than gray.

And Prime does have blue, it's just light blue instead of dark blue. I think some folks need to adjust their monitor color settings.

 

[Moonbear]

for me, it's the grey color. it's just bland (imho) which is why i prefer the plain blue-white color of the classic skin. but you know do what you have to do. no biggie

It's too bland, so you'd prefer something plain?

(Okay, maybe I shouldn't have had coffee at 11 PM, but that struck me as pretty funny in my current caffeine-induced insomnia.)

 

[Evo]

I also don't like the bland grey color. Its not only that its a little bit too bright to comfortably look at for long periods, but it makes the whole forum look boring.

The "Prime" skin is blue on my monitor.

Also, Prime has the members list, which I like. It's missing in the Nexus version.

 

[Moonbear]

The "Prime" skin is blue on my monitor.

Yes, it's blue on mine too, though my laptop color settings aren't as good, so it looks grayer on that.

Also, Prime has the members list, which I like. It's missing in the Nexus version.

Oh, sure, make me switch back to Prime to see what you're talking about. I guess it isn't anything I've missed.

Edit: Oh, okay, that. Maybe Greg can stick that into the menu options in Nexus so we can get to it without needing to add another button to the toolbar?

 

[Lisa!]

I get used to Nexus' colors, so I'm not going to switch to Prime right now!

Yes, it's blue on mine too, though my laptop color settings aren't as good, so it looks grayer on that.


Oh, sure, make me switch back to Prime to see what you're talking about. I guess it isn't anything I've missed.

Edit: Oh, okay, that. Maybe Greg can stick that into the menu options in Nexus so we can get to it without needing to add another button to the toolbar?

If I was a mentor, I just picked up some names from the member list and start issuing warnings whenver I was bored! [/size]

 

[JamesU]

tha't's why you're not a mentor ;)

 

[PIT2]

This is the color i get as most 'blue' on prime(its the bgcolor in quoted texts):

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7731/notblue0zt.jpg

I don't think it qualifies as blue, but as grey :)
Is there any way to check?

I know when the RGB values are all equal then its true grey, and here its:
216 - 223 - 228

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

This is the color i get as most 'blue' on prime(its the bgcolor in quoted texts):

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7731/notblue0zt.jpg

I don't think it qualifies as blue, but as grey :)
Is there any way to check?

I know when the RGB values are all equal then its true grey, and here its:
216 - 223 - 228

It is a blue

 

[honestrosewater]

It is a blue

And a lovely blue it is too.

 

[Monique]

This is the color i get as most 'blue' on prime(its the bgcolor in quoted texts):

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7731/notblue0zt.jpg

I don't think it qualifies as blue, but as grey :)
Is there any way to check?

I know when the RGB values are all equal then its true grey, and here its:
216 - 223 - 228

If you take a look at your own attachement, you'll notice it IS a hue of blue

 

[JamesU]

It looks grey to me. So does PF Prime when I look at it (It looks very blue on my regular computer)

 

[PIT2]

If you take a look at your own attachement, you'll notice it IS a hue of blue

The RGB value is 216 - 223 - 228.

This means it is extremely close to being completely grey (228-228-228 being grey)
Just to put things in perspective:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3306/primebluyegrey8yg.jpg

In other words, it might as well have been a hue of red or green, it would still look mostly grey.
And this is what i think makes the site look bland.

 

[Moonbear]

Nope, it's got more blue than red and green, so it's blue. You can tell by the columns it's appearing in in your attached image.

Edit: Here is a comparison of various combinations of those "number values" and the associated colors, all placed on a 228-228-228 gray background for clarity.