When gradient is parallel to position vector

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The discussion centers on the mathematical problem of demonstrating that if the gradient of a function \( f(x,y,z) \) is always parallel to the position vector \( \mathbf{r} = xi + yj + zk \), then it follows that \( f(0,0,a) = f(0,0,-a) \) for any value of \( a \). Participants explored the implications of the dot product between the gradient and the position vector, emphasizing the significance of the angle between them. The conclusion drawn is that the vector from \( f(0,0,a) \) to \( f(0,0,-a) \) is indeed \( -2ak \), and further analysis through unit vectors and dot products is necessary to validate the relationship.

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Homework Statement



suppose that grad of f(x,y,z) is always parallel to the position vector xi+yj+zk. show that f(0,0,a)=f(0,0,-a) for any a.


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grad of f= fx(x,y,z)i+fy(x,y,z)j+fz(x,y,z)k ; then gradf (dot) pos.vector = |gradf|*|pos.vector| (since cos(teta)=1 ) ===> however ı could not do anything with this equation and ı have not any other idea...
 
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dot product, or cosine of theta

positive if theta is 0, negative if theta is 180 or pi

that tells your max and min slope
 
Mathgician said:
dot product, or cosine of theta

positive if theta is 0, negative if theta is 180 or pi

that tells your max and min slope

what should ı do with the max and min slope value?
 
oahsen said:
what should ı do with the max and min slope value?

what is the vector from f(0,0,a) to f(0,0,-a)?

find the unit vector of this vector,

and then do the dot product of the unit vector and the gradient vector.
 
Mathgician said:
what is the vector from f(0,0,a) to f(0,0,-a)?

find the unit vector of this vector,

and then do the dot product of the unit vector and the gradient vector.

since we do not know f how can we find the vector from f(0,0,a) to f(0,0,-a)?
please be more clear. I do not know perfectly this subject.
 
oahsen said:
since we do not know f how can we find the vector from f(0,0,a) to f(0,0,-a)?
please be more clear. I do not know perfectly this subject.

lets call f(0,0,a) point P, and f(0,0,-a) point S

What is vector PS?
 
Mathgician said:
lets call f(0,0,a) point P, and f(0,0,-a) point S

What is vector PS?

is it -2ak (ı am not sure)
 
find the unit vector of that and do the dot product of that and the gradiant and see if you get the answer you are looking for
 

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