Gradient and finding the direction of maximum rate of change

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of the gradient and its relation to the direction of maximum rate of change in a mathematical context. Participants are exploring the implications of a specific problem involving gradients and unit vectors.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify their understanding of the gradient and its role in determining the direction of maximum rate of change, questioning whether they have misunderstood the problem's requirements.
  • Some participants suggest that the direction of maximum rate of change corresponds to a unit vector derived from the gradient.
  • There are inquiries about specific details, such as the exponent in the denominator of a function and the notation used for direction.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on interpreting the problem. There is a recognition that the direction of maximum rate of change is typically represented as a unit vector, and some participants are exploring the nuances of this representation. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating potential confusion regarding the phrasing of the problem and the mathematical expressions involved, particularly in relation to the gradient and its representation as a unit vector.

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Hi guys, it a very simple question, but it causing me a great deal of confusion. The questions are as follows:

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So I worked out the ans for one which I have displayed below. But what I don't understand is what they want from the second question. Because the way I see it, the direction of maximum rate of change is the gradient itself. Am I missing something here because I am really lost.

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1: ##\nabla f=\frac{-xi}{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^3} -\frac{yj}{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^3}-\frac{zk}{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^3}##

##\nabla f = le^{lx+my+nz}i+me^{lx+my+nz}j+ne^{lx+my+nz}k##

2: I make the direction as follows: ##(-xi-yj-zk)## & ##li+mj+nk##

Is this correct or have I miss understood the question?
 
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Check the exponent in the denominator in the first f in part 1).
For part 2: I agree with you : ##-\bf\hat r## and ##(l,m,n)##.

[edit] perhaps for 'direction' the exercise composer wants to see ##\bf \hat r## ?
 
Taylor_1989 said:
But what I don't understand is what they want from the second question. Because the way I see it, the direction of maximum rate of change is the gradient itself.

?

The direction of maximum rate of change is the direction of the gradient. That generally means a unit vector,
 
BvU said:
Check the exponent in the denominator in the first f in part 1).
For part 2: I agree with you : ##-\bf\hat r## and ##(l,m,n)##.

[edit] perhaps for 'direction' the exercise composer wants to see ##\bf \hat r## ?
Thank you I did not put the 3/2 in thanks.
 
PeroK said:
The direction of maximum rate of change is the direction of the gradient. That generally means a unit vector,

when u say unit vector you mean ##\frac{\nabla f}{|\nabla f|}##?
 
Taylor_1989 said:
when u say unit vector you mean ##\frac{\nabla f}{|\nabla f|}##?

In this case, yes. If you look at the difference between the gradient and the direction if the gradient for the second function - the exponential - you'll see the point.
 

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