Mechanism with up and down movement?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around mechanisms that facilitate up and down movement, exploring various designs and applications. Participants consider different mechanical systems, including pistons, elevators, and other devices, while seeking to refine their ideas based on specific requirements.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a piston with a crankshaft as a potential mechanism for up and down movement.
  • Another participant proposes alternatives such as elevators, car jacks, and forklifts, emphasizing the need for specificity regarding size, force, and speed.
  • A participant describes a simple mechanism involving two pistons, referencing attached figures for clarity.
  • Questions arise about the method of moving the pistons, with a suggestion that the application will dictate the choice of mechanism.
  • One participant outlines a design involving a rod with a cam for horizontal motion and an electric motor for driving the cam-crankshaft, noting that velocity can be calculated based on motor RPM.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of a second piston when linear reciprocating motion can be achieved with a cam alone.
  • A participant identifies the linkage shown in a previous post as a double slider four-bar chain, specifically an elliptical trammel.
  • A mention of bearings indicates their role in allowing for vertical motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various ideas and suggestions, but there is no consensus on a single mechanism or approach. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best method for achieving up and down movement.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of application context in determining the appropriate mechanism, indicating that specific requirements such as size, force, and speed are critical factors that remain unresolved.

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Hi ... I was trying to figure out a mechanism which allows for up and down movement. I figured a piston with crankshaft... anyone has any other possibilities?
Thanks
 
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How about an elevator? How about a car jack, or a fork-lift? You need to be more specific in order to answer your question.

Mainly: size, force, speed.
 
I have a simple mchanism that is composed by 2 pistons as the attached figures shows
 

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@firevia, how do you plan to move pistons??

@rvr, there are lot of ways to get linear motion, deciding factor remains the application. You ll have to come up with an application to decide which one to choose.
 
well it is simple , we should install a rod with a cam for the horizental piston and install an electric motor to the (cam-cranck shaft) , velocity can be easily calculated depending on the rpm of the electrical motr , but to make a full design I need configurations.
 
But why do you need the second piston?? You already have a linear reciprocating motion with cam!
And by the way, the linkage you showed is a double slider 4 bar chain, its an elliptical trammel
 
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/images/object_images/535x535/10302774.jpg
 
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a bearing allows for vertical motion
 

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