Oldest footprints found (in Nevada)

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The discussion revolves around the discovery of what are claimed to be the oldest known footprints, dated to 570 million years ago, found in Nevada. Participants explore the implications of this finding on the evolution of land animals and the nature of the creature that made the footprints, considering both evolutionary timelines and the environmental context of the discovery.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that if the footprints are indeed from 570 million years ago, this predates the Cambrian explosion and known complex life forms, suggesting a world dominated by simpler organisms.
  • One participant proposes that the footprints may have been made by an aquatic creature with adaptations for walking along the sea floor, rather than a land-dwelling beast, challenging the interpretation of the findings.
  • Another participant reiterates the conclusion that the footprints were made by an aquatic creature, emphasizing the shallow impressions left in the sediment.
  • There is a suggestion that the evolution of legs may not have been specifically for land walking, but rather adapted from a function for moving along the ocean floor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the discovery, particularly regarding the nature of the creature that made the footprints and the evolutionary significance of the finding. No consensus is reached on these interpretations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the evolutionary timeline and the environmental context of the footprints, as well as the assumptions underlying the interpretations of the findings.

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Oldest 'Footprints' on Earth Found
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/oldestfootprintsonearthfound
The oldest-known tracks of a creature apparently using legs have been discovered in rock dated to 570 million years ago in what was once a shallow sea in Nevada.

Scientists think land beasts evolved from ancient creatures that left the sea and evolved lungs and legs. If the new finding is real - the discoverer says will fuel skepticism - it pushes the advent of walking back 30 million years earlier than any previous solid finding.

The aquatic creature left its "footprints" as two parallel rows of small dots, each about 2 millimeters in diameter. Scientists said today that the animal must have stepped lightly onto the soft marine sediment, because its legs only pressed shallow pinpoints into that long-ago sea bed.
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Much of the N. American continent was underwater during the distant past.
 
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Good find Astronuc. That's very odd because if the estimated time is correct, that places it well before the Cambrian explosion also well before known complex life forms evolved. A world thought to only be dominated by worms, echinoderms, and other soft-shelled organisms.

Even though this picture is ~60Ma years later, it gives you a good idea of the amount of ocean occupying future land of North America.
http://www.winona.edu/geology/MRW/mrwimages/Cambrian510.jpg

Here's one at ~545 - 535Ma
http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~rcb7/550NAt.jpg
 
Since these footprints were found in rock that used to be the bottom of a shallow sea, wouldn't it be more natural to conclude that they were made by some aquatic creature with "stumps" for walking along the bottom (like an early precursor of the coelacanth), rather than a land beast or amphybian?

It would seem to me that, rather than pushing back the advent of land walking creatures by 30 million years, this discovery (if verified) would indicate that the evolution of legs was not "purpose made" for walking on land. Instead, it would appear that these "stumps" evolved for the purpose of walking along the sea floor, and then were later adapted for short walks across obstacles between bodies of water.
 
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Erm, that is what they concluded.

The aquatic creature left its "footprints" as two parallel rows of small dots, each about 2 millimeters in diameter. Scientists said today that the animal must have stepped lightly onto the soft marine sediment, because its legs only pressed shallow pinpoints into that long-ago sea bed.

Interestung stuff :smile:
 

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