Proof of a definite multiple integral relation

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The discussion revolves around proving a specific identity involving multiple integrals, particularly focusing on the transition from one integral form to another. Participants explore various mathematical techniques and substitutions related to spherical coordinates and dot products, aiming to understand the underlying relationships in the integrals presented.

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  • One participant cites an identity from Gradshteyn & Ryzhik and seeks proof of the relationship between the integrals.
  • Another participant suggests using the formula for combining cosine and sine terms to simplify the integrals.
  • A different participant attempts to manipulate the integrals by focusing on the terms involving angles and substitutions but struggles to reduce them to the desired form.
  • One participant claims to have found a solution by considering the problem from a spherical coordinate perspective, defining a unit vector and relating it to the dot product of vectors on the sphere.
  • Another participant extends the discussion to a more complex integral involving two dot products and inquires about reducing it to a single integral, noting that simplification is only possible when the vectors are parallel.
  • A later reply suggests a simplification by using unit vectors and generalizing the approach for the second problem, although the effectiveness of this suggestion remains uncertain.

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Participants express differing views on the methods to prove the integral identity, with some proposing specific techniques while others challenge or refine these approaches. No consensus is reached on a single method for proving the original identity or simplifying the extended integral.

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Participants note various assumptions and conditions, such as the dependence on the orientation of vectors and the complexity introduced by multiple dot products. The discussion reflects ongoing exploration without resolving all mathematical steps or assumptions.

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Hello,

The following is identity no. 4.624 in Gradshteyn & Ryzhik's Table of Integrals, Series and Products:
<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> \int_0^{\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}f\left(\alpha\cos\theta+\beta\sin\theta\cos\phi+\gamma\sin\theta\sin\phi\right)\sin\theta d\theta d\phi=2\pi\int_0^{\pi}f\left(R\cos p\right)\sin p\, dp = 2\pi\int_{-1}^{1}f\left(Rt\right)dt\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br /> where<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> R = \sqrt{\alpha^2+\beta^2+\gamma^2}.\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br />
I would like to know how this can be proved, in particular, how to get from the first to the second integral. I know that a substitution of t=\cos p will get you from the second to third integral.

Thanks.
 
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I haven't worked out the details (I'll leave that to you),
but the general idea is repeated application of acosx + bsinx=r(cosxcosy+sinxsiny)=rcos(x-y)
where r² = a² + b² and y=arctan(b/a). You can also use an analogous trick to end up with sin(x+y).
 
Mathman,

Thanks for your help. I have followed your advice on first \phi and then \theta and got the following.

Starting from
<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> \alpha\cos\theta+\beta\cos\phi\sin\theta+\gamma\sin\theta\sin\phi=\alpha\cos\theta+\sin\theta\left(\beta\cos\phi+\gamma\sin\phi\right)\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br /> which becomes<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> \alpha\cos\theta+\sin\theta\left(\sqrt{\gamma^{2}+\beta^{2}}\cos\left(\phi-\arctan\frac{\gamma}{\beta}\right)\right)\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br /> and then<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> \sqrt{\alpha^{2}+\left(\gamma^2+\beta^2\right)\cos^2\left(\phi-\arctan\frac{\gamma}{\beta}\right)}\cos\left(\theta-\arctan\left(\frac{\sqrt{\gamma^2+\beta^2}\cos\left(\phi-\arctan\frac{\gamma}{\beta}\right)}{\alpha}\right)\right)\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br />

However, I cannot get beyond this point to reduce the term in the square root to R. Am I missing something?
 
The only thing I can suggest is that you try combining α with βcosφ + γsinφ first. Good luck!
 
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Ignore previous answers - I finally got it! It can't be done one angle at a time, as far as I can tell. However looking at from a spherical coordinate point of view it is relatively simple (after much thought).

Start be defining a unit vector V = (α/R,β/R,γ/R), where R is as defined in the original problem.
Let Q=(x,y,z) be a point (in rectangular coordinates) on the surface of the sphere of radius R.
Then the argument of the function (f) is simply the dot product of V and Q.
This is independent of the angular coordinate system you are using, i.e. what you have is the integral of f(V.Q) over the entire surface of the sphere.
Choose a set of spherical coordinates with the axis in the same direction as V and you will get the second integral (or the equivalent with sin and cos switched and end points adjusted accordingly).

This will work!
 
Thanks for your help Mathman, it makes sense to me now! I had begun to work on it from the point of view of the surface area of a sphere but hadn't managed to get it.

Thank you!
 
Hi Mathman,

I am trying to extend the method you suggested to solving integrals of the form

\begin{equation}<br /> \int_0^{\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}\sin\theta f\left(\alpha\sin\theta\cos\phi+\beta\sin\theta\sin\phi+\gamma\cos\theta\right)g\left(a\sin\theta\cos\phi+b\sin\theta\sin\phi+c\cos\theta\right) d\theta d\phi\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}

As before, I have treated it as the dot product of a unit vector and a vector on a sphere. In this case there are two such dot products
<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> \int_0^{\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}\sin\theta f\left(\mathbf{v_1}.\mathbf{Q_1}\right)g\left(\mathbf{v_2}.\mathbf{Q_2}\right) d\theta d\phi\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br />
where
<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> \mathbf{v_1}= \left(\frac{\alpha}{R_1},\frac{\beta}{R_1},\frac{\gamma}{R_1}\right),<br /> \mathbf{v_2}= \left(\frac{a}{R_2},\frac{b}{R_2},\frac{c}{R_2}\right)\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br />
with
<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> R_1 = \sqrt{\alpha^2+\beta^2+\gamma^2},R_2 = \sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br />
I then rotated the coordinate system such that the z-axis (from which \theta is measured) lies along the vector \mathbf{v_1} which allows me to reduce the integral to
<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> \int_0^{\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}\sin \psi f\left(R_1\cos \psi\right)g\left(R_2\cos\left(\lambda-\psi\right)\cos\phi\right)d\phi d\psi\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br />
where
<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> \lambda = \arccos\left(\mathbf{v_1}.\mathbf{v_2}\right).\nonumber<br /> \end{equation}<br />

I am wondering if there is anyway that I can reduce this to a single integral as was done in the previous case.So far, I have only managed to do this if \mathbf{v_1} and \mathbf{v_2} are parallel. Thanks in advance!
 
After I posted the note for the previous solution I realized that it is slightly simpler if V = (α,β,γ) so V would have length R and the sphere would now have unit radius.

Generalizing to your second problem is better using this approach, since you would have v1 = (α,β,γ) abd v2=(a,b,c) allowing the same Q to be used in the arguments for f and g.
I don't know if this helps.
 

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