What's the difference between differential topology and algebraic topology?

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The discussion centers on the differences and relationships between differential topology and algebraic topology, exploring which area might be more suitable for study given a background in differential geometry. The scope includes theoretical aspects and potential study paths.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that differential topology focuses on manifolds and differentiable structures, often using methods similar to analysis.
  • Others describe algebraic topology as dealing with a broader class of topological spaces, associating algebraic objects like groups to these spaces.
  • One participant notes that basic topology may be necessary for studying differential geometry, indicating a potential prerequisite relationship.
  • Another participant argues that differential and algebraic topology are related, as techniques from both can be applied to study topology, citing examples like the use of Sard's Theorem in algebraic topology proofs.
  • Some participants assert that algebraic topology is more general since it does not require spaces to have a smooth structure for its results to apply.
  • One participant emphasizes that many results in differential topology are differentiable versions of results in algebraic topology, suggesting a connection that could be missed without knowledge of both fields.
  • There is a suggestion that beginning differential topology can be approached as an extension of multivariate calculus, while also advocating for simultaneous study of both areas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship and prerequisites between differential topology and algebraic topology. While some see them as distinct with different focuses, others highlight their interconnections and suggest that knowledge of one can enhance understanding of the other. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to studying these fields.

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Limitations include varying definitions of terms like "smooth structure" and "topological spaces," as well as differing assumptions about the prerequisites for studying each area. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical details or implications of the theorems mentioned.

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Having some knowledge of differential geometry, I want to self-study topology. Which of the two areas shall I study first? Thanks for answer!
 
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Differential topology is the study of manifolds: You consider something that locally looks like Euclidean space, on which you can differentiate etc. The proofs used in differential topology look similar to analysis; lots of epsilons and approximations etc.

Algebraic topology considers a broader class of topological spaces, and assigns algebraic objects (groups) to them. You have lots of algebraic theorems about homomorphisms between groups related to continuous maps between topological spaces and other things like that in order to draw conclusions.
 


To study differential geometry, you might need some (very) basic topology. Aside from this, they're not very related, as far as I know.
 


Given a smooth manifold, the two are very much related, in that you can use differential or algebraic techniques to study the topology. Here's an example: prove that the homotopy groups

\pi_i(S^n)=0, i<n

This is a question in algebraic topology, but by far the simplest proof uses Sard's Theorem, a theorem in differential topology.
 


I think Algebraic Topology is more general, in that your spaces do not need to admit
a smooth structure for the results of AT to apply.

One theorem relating the two areas is also deRham's theorem.
 
petergreat said:
Having some knowledge of differential geometry, I want to self-study topology. Which of the two areas shall I study first? Thanks for answer!

many of the results in differential topology involve differentiable versions of results in algebraic topology. Without knowing the algebraic topology you will miss this connection.

On the other hand beginning differential topology is elementary - largely based on Sard's Theorem and the Implicit Function Theorem - and can be learned as an extension of multivariate calculus.

Learn both at the same time.

Differential topology is the study of smooth manifolds and smooth mappings using only the methods of calculus. Most importantly this means that it avoids the use of metrics - though not completely - and thus is distinguished from Riemannian geometry. When we first learn multi-variate calculus we implicitly use the metric on Euclidean space and are no told that this metric is extra structure that is not really needed. For instance, the idea of the gradient of a function uses the metric. But one could just as well use the differential of a function and discard the metric. This is what happens in differential topology.
 
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