Solve Physics Problems: Oil Slick Diameter & Bowling Ball Speed

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems: one involving the estimation of the diameter of an oil slick formed by a specific volume of oil, and the other concerning the speed of a bowling ball based on the time it takes for sound to travel back to the bowler after hitting the pins.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between volume and area in the context of the oil slick, suggesting a disc shape for the slick and considering the height based on molecular thickness. For the bowling ball problem, there is a discussion about breaking down the events into phases related to the ball's travel and the sound's return.

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Some participants have offered initial thoughts on how to approach the problems, including setting up equations based on the relationships between time, distance, and volume. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions and interpretations of the problems without reaching a consensus.

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Participants question whether the lake can be treated as a cylinder for the oil problem and discuss the implications of the thickness of the oil layer. The total time for the bowling ball and sound is noted as a key factor in solving the second problem.

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I'm having trouble figuring these 2 problems out:

4000cm^3 (.004m^3) of oil is spilled onto a smooth lake. If the oil spreads out uniformly until it makes an oil slick 3 molecules thick, with adjecent modlecules just touching, estimate the diameter of oil slick. Assume the oil molecues have diameter of 2x10^-10.

The other problem is:
A bowling ball traveling with constant speed hits the pins at the end of a bowling land 16.5m long. The bowler heas the sound of the ball hitting the pins 2.70 seconds after the ball is released form his hands. What is the speed of the ball? The speed of sound is 340m/s.

Any hints on how to get started would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
 
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lmf22 said:
The other problem is:
A bowling ball traveling with constant speed hits the pins at the end of a bowling land 16.5m long. The bowler heas the sound of the ball hitting the pins 2.70 seconds after the ball is released form his hands. What is the speed of the ball? The speed of sound is 340m/s.

Any hints on how to get started would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

For "the other problem":

You know that t(ball) + t(sound) = 2.7 seconds

so you can set up the equation as

16.5= 340t(sound)

after that you know the t(ball) which is really easy to solve from there...
 
In the first problem, if the oil "spreads out uniformly", I would take that to mean at it looks like a disc when viewed from above. The volume of this thin disk is the area of the disc multiplied by the height. Your trying to solve for the diameter (more or less radius).. see if that gets you started.

In the second problem, split it up into two phases. One, when the ball goes from bowler to pin, and two, when the sound of the crash goes from pin to bowler. The two are lated by the fact that the total time it takes for both events is given.
 
lmf22 said:
I'm having trouble figuring these 2 problems out:

4000cm^3 (.004m^3) of oil is spilled onto a smooth lake. If the oil spreads out uniformly until it makes an oil slick 3 molecules thick, with adjecent modlecules just touching, estimate the diameter of oil slick. Assume the oil molecues have diameter of 2x10^-10.


Any hints on how to get started would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

for this problem, i assume you can treat the lake as a cylinder?
volume = .004m^3

We know the height equals 3 molecules thick so you can figure that out.

pi*r^2*h = .004m^3

just solve for r and multiply it by 2 to give the diameter.
 

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