Potential energy of quadrupole moments

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The potential energy of two quadrupole moments, assuming a large mutual distance and no total charge or dipole moments, is defined by the equation W = (Q:Q' - 10 n.Q.Q'.n + 35/3 (n.Q.n)(n.Q'.n))/r5. This equation utilizes a symmetric traceless tensor Q to represent the quadrupole moments. Additionally, the discussion highlights the complexity of tensor indices, clarifying that four indices (i, j, k, l) are necessary for the representation of quadrupole interactions, as opposed to the three used for dipoles. The dipole-quadrupole interaction energy formula was also requested but not explicitly provided.

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hi

i am looking for an equation that gives me the potential energy of 2 quadrupole moments and their mutual distance is assumed to be large.

and they have no total charge or dipole moments.

does such an equation exist?
 
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Are you sure you want to see this? It's rather complicated. Let's write down the dipole-dipole interaction first. An electric dipole moment is described by a vector p. The electrostatic potential energy between two dipoles p and p' a distance r apart is

W = (p.p' -3 (n.p)(n.p'))/r3

where n is the unit vector pointing from one dipole to the other.

Ok similarly, the quadrupole moment of an object is described by a symmetric traceless tensor Q. The electrostatic potential energy between two quadrupoles Q and Q' is given by

W = (Q:Q' -10 n.Q.Q'.n + 35/3 (n.Q.n)(n.Q'.n))/r5

Maybe you'd rather see this written out explicitly with all the indices.

Φ = (QijQ'ij - 10 niQijQ'jknk + 35/3 niQijnj nkQ'klnl)/r5
 
Bill_K said:
Are you sure you want to see this? It's rather complicated. Let's write down the dipole-dipole interaction first. An electric dipole moment is described by a vector p. The electrostatic potential energy between two dipoles p and p' a distance r apart is

W = (p.p' -3 (n.p)(n.p'))/r3

where n is the unit vector pointing from one dipole to the other.

Ok similarly, the quadrupole moment of an object is described by a symmetric traceless tensor Q. The electrostatic potential energy between two quadrupoles Q and Q' is given by

W = (Q:Q' -10 n.Q.Q'.n + 35/3 (n.Q.n)(n.Q'.n))/r5

Maybe you'd rather see this written out explicitly with all the indices.

Φ = (QijQ'ij - 10 niQijQ'jknk + 35/3 niQijnj nkQ'klnl)/r5

thank you this exactly what i needed!
 
oh,

could you explain to me, why there are 4 indices? i,j,k and l

i thought that this tensor would only use 3 cartesian coordinates?

then why are there 4 different indices?
 
Hi, this is very helpful.
could anyone tell me the dipole-quadrupole energy formula?
I have the dipole moment and explicit quadrupole moment terms but aren't sure how to calculate their interaction energy!
 

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