Is -1 Really Equal to 1? Exploring Curious Mathematical Proofs

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The discussion explores the mathematical assertion that -1 could be equal to 1, prompted by various "proofs" that appear to demonstrate this equality. The scope includes theoretical reasoning and mathematical proofs involving imaginary numbers and square roots of negative values.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a proof suggesting that -1 equals 1 by manipulating square roots and imaginary numbers.
  • Several participants challenge the validity of the proof, stating that one cannot split the square root of a negative number in the manner proposed.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the square root of a negative number is defined as an imaginary number, specifically noting that √(-1) = i.
  • A participant references Euler's formula to illustrate a similar fallacy, leading to the conclusion that -1 equals 1 through a series of transformations.
  • Another example is provided where the manipulation of square roots leads to the same conclusion, but is critiqued for its method.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the proofs presented, with some asserting that the manipulations violate mathematical laws, while others explore the implications of imaginary numbers and their properties.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the interpretation of square roots of negative numbers and the potential misapplication of mathematical principles in the proofs discussed.

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heres a little problem that at a first glance is real:

[tex]\frac{1}{-1} = \frac{-1}{1}[/tex]

so
[tex]\sqrt{\frac{1}{-1}} = \sqrt{\frac{-1}{1}}[/tex]

by splitting it the square root into two parts...

[tex]\frac{i}{1} = \frac{1}{i}[/tex]
and [tex]i^2 = 1[/tex]

-1 = 1

wonder if there are any more similar "proofs"?
 
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You can't split the square root into two parts. There are plenty of similar "proofs". You can search the web for them, and there are a number of them on this site alone.
 
You can not take the square root of a negative number.
 
mathlete said:
You can not take the square root of a negative number.

[tex]\sqrt{-1}=i[/tex]

imaginay numbers allow for negitive sqroots

he just violated a law in the way he split up his negitive signs.
 
A thinly veiled version of the same, though the fallacy is perhaps more transparent:

Euler's formula tells us:

[tex]e^{i\theta}=\cos(\theta)+i\sin(\theta)[/tex]

So we see that:

[tex]e^{-i\pi}=e^{i\pi}[/tex]

taking roots gives:

[tex](e^{-i\pi})^{1/2}=(e^{i\pi})^{1/2}[/tex]
[tex]e^{-i\frac{\pi}{2}}=e^{i\frac{\pi}{2}}[/tex]

Using Euler's formula again and we get:

[tex]-i=i[/tex]

or -1=1
 
Here's another (though this one cheats in a different way) :

[tex]1 = \sqrt{1} = \sqrt{(-1)(-1)} = \sqrt{-1} \sqrt{-1} = i^2 = -1[/tex]
 

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