Linear model uniquely implies a boundary to our Universe?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of a linear model of the Universe on the concept of a boundary defined by the Hubble radius. Participants explore the relationship between the Hubble radius, cosmological event horizons, and the nature of expansion in different cosmological models.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines the Hubble radius R(t) and discusses its implications for objects beyond it, suggesting that a linearly expanding Universe has a unique boundary at the Hubble radius.
  • Another participant challenges the idea that a stationary Hubble radius would create a true cosmological event horizon, arguing that this would only occur if the radius were at a constant cosmological proper distance.
  • A third participant points out that the cosmological event horizon is a feature of accelerated spacetimes, contrasting it with the empty universe scenario described by others.
  • One participant expresses a belief that the linear model uniquely maintains a boundary at the Hubble radius, unlike the de Sitter model where matter crosses the boundary.
  • Another participant notes that in any ideal Friedmann-Robertson-Walker (FRW) spacetime, no matter crosses any comoving sphere, suggesting that the Hubble-sphere in the linear model is just one example of this behavior.
  • A later reply acknowledges the misunderstanding regarding event horizons, stating that they can only exist in an accelerating Universe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the Hubble radius and its implications for cosmological boundaries. There is no consensus on whether a linear model uniquely implies a boundary, as multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of event horizons and the behavior of matter in different cosmological models.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various cosmological models, including linear expansion and de Sitter expansion, highlighting assumptions about the nature of expansion and the conditions under which event horizons exist. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and conditions that may affect the conclusions drawn.

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The Hubble radius R is defined by:

R(t) = c / H(t)

where H(t) is the Hubble parameter which is a function of time.

Objects beyond the Hubble radius are receeding from us faster than the velocity of light.

At first glance one would think that light from those objects can never reach us. However the Hubble radius generally moves relative to the Universal expansion so that objects that were inside or outside the Hubble radius at a particular time move outside or inside at a later time.

If the Hubble radius was stationary in co-moving cordinates then there would be a true cosmological event horizon at that distance separating objects within our Universe from those outside it for all time.

For this to be true

R(t) \propto a(t)

where a(t) is the scale factor.

Thus

\frac{1}{H(t)} \propto a(t)

Now we have

H(t) = \frac{\dot{a}}{a}

Therefore we get

\frac{a(t)}{\dot{a}(t)} \propto a(t)

This implies

\dot{a}(t) \propto 1

Therefore

a(t) \propto t

So a linearly expanding Universe is unique because it has a true "impermeable" boundary at its Hubble radius.

Have I got this right?
 
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If the Hubble radius was stationary in co-moving cordinates then there would be a true cosmological event horizon at that distance separating objects within our Universe from those outside it for all time.
No, this would be the case if it was at a constant cosmological proper distance, 1/H=const.
What you're describing is a freely coasting universe, with the empty universe as a special case.
 
As Ich said in de Sitter expansion horizon is constant in time. You are describing empty universe, where H=1/t, therefore Rh=ct, so Hubble radius is growing at the speed of light and eventually all objects in the universe will be in causal contact. Cosmological event horizon is a feature of accelerated spacetimes only!
 
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I guess I shouldn't use the term "cosmological event horizon".

But I still think that the linearly expanding Universe is unique in that it has a true boundary at the Hubble radius acting as an "edge" to the Universe. In the linear model no matter ever crosses this boundary in either direction.

This is in contrast to, say, the de Sitter model where matter is constantly crossing out of the boundary at the (constant) Hubble radius.
 
In the linear model no matter ever crosses this boundary in either direction.
Great. But:
In every (ideal) FRW-spacetime, no matter ever crosses any comoving sphere. The Hubble-sphere in the linearly expanding model is just one example.
Google "shell crossing", that's something you don't want to have for your model to be well-behaved.
 
Hi,

Sorry everyone!

I now understand that one can only have an event horizon in an accelerating Universe.

John
 

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