Designing Shielding Box for High Voltage Cylinder

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The discussion revolves around the design of a shielding box for a high voltage cylinder, specifically addressing the calculation of the electric field around the cylinder and the appropriate distance between the cylinder and the metal plate of the box. The scope includes theoretical calculations, numerical simulations, and design considerations.

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  • One participant seeks assistance in designing a shielding box for a cylinder with a high voltage of +60 kV and mentions the need to calculate the electric field and the distance between the cylinder and the metal plate.
  • Another participant suggests using approximations such as d >> R to treat the box as a cylindrical capacitor and apply Gauss' law for calculations.
  • A different participant mentions the possibility of numerical simulations as a solution to the problem and asks for recommendations on the type of numerical solution to use.
  • One participant provides a formula for the capacitance per unit length of a cylinder above a metal plate, referencing a specific textbook for further details.
  • Another participant elaborates on using a two-dimensional grid for numerical solutions, recommending the use of boundary conditions for potential and the Laplace equation in the vacuum or air.

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Participants express various approaches to the problem, including theoretical calculations and numerical simulations, but no consensus is reached on a specific method or solution. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best approach to take.

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Participants mention specific conditions and assumptions, such as the approximation of distances and the use of boundary conditions, but these are not fully resolved or agreed upon.

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i have to design one shielding box. in that there is cylinder having high voltage +60kev. and box having metal plate. so i have to calculate the electric field on that cylinder and then decide , what should be the distance in between plate and cylinder. i have attach the geometry on the file. please see it.
 

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Could anyone help me ?
 
Can you use some approximation, like d>>R?
In that case, it should be possible to approximate the box as a cylinder, and calculate it like a cylindrical capacitor using Gauss' law (google should give you some ways to do this).

If not, a numerical simulation might be the easiest way to solve your problem.
 
yes, thanks ... bt i think i wl get that for cylindrical capacitor. bt right now i have another design.. bt i wl try for solving it.
btw what type of numerical solution that i should use??



mfb said:
Can you use some approximation, like d>>R?
In that case, it should be possible to approximate the box as a cylinder, and calculate it like a cylindrical capacitor using Gauss' law (google should give you some ways to do this).

If not, a numerical simulation might be the easiest way to solve your problem.
 
For a cylinder and one metal plate, the capacitance per unit length is given by Smythe Static and Dynamic Electricity 3rd edition page 78:
C=\frac{2\pi\epsilon}{cosh^{-1}\frac{h}{R}}
for cylinder of radius R with axis parallel to and at a distance h above an infinite plane. The problem of a cylinder between two conducting planes is given on page 105.
 
india said:
btw what type of numerical solution that i should use??
A two-dimensional grid, for example. Use your favourite tool, plug in the boundary conditions for the potential Φ (box and circle) and the Laplace equation \nabla^2 \Phi = 0 in the vacuum (or air, as good approximation).

In excel, the result can look like http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2824/7fhjuxw8_jpg.htm (I did this for a cylinder over an infinite plane orthogonal to the cylinder axis, and it uses cylindrical coordinates).
 

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