Unusual question about magnets with same poles.

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The discussion revolves around a student's experiment to determine the magnetization of an old magnet by observing the behavior of a plotting compass near its ends. The subject area involves magnetism and the properties of magnetic poles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the compass readings and question the conditions under which the magnet could be considered magnetized or not. Some suggest that both ends of the magnet could be south poles, while others propose that the compass might be faulty.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of different scenarios regarding the magnet's state, with participants questioning the assumptions made about the magnet's polarity and the reliability of the compass. Multiple interpretations of the results are being discussed without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem statement emphasizes the design of the experiment to test the magnet's status, which may influence their reasoning about the expected outcomes.

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Homework Statement



A student finds an old magnet at the back of a drawer containing other magnets.
He designs an experiment to find out if it is still magnetised.
(i) He brings a plotting compass near to end A of the old magnet, as shown in the first part of the image.
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State the polarity of end Y of the old magnet.
........................[1]
(ii) The plotting compass is then brought near to end B, as shown in the second part of the image.
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State the polarity of end X.
........................[1]
(iii) Suggest a possible explanation for the student’s results.
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The Attempt at a Solution


my solution is that both the ends are south poles and i have no explanation what so ever...
 
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He designs an experiment to find out if it is still magnetised.

What if it isn't?
 
If it was magnetized that just could not happen. If unmagnetized then either N or S could be attracted to either X or Y , and it would be possible to create both those configurations if one set things up appropriately.
 
is it possible that the compass is faulty?
 
I really think the key is in the problem statement!..

He designs an experiment to find out if it is still magnetised.

As ApplePion said.. If the magnet was still magnetized one end would be south and the other North. The possible combinations were..

NN -> Not magnetised
NS -> Could be magnetised or due to chance
SN -> Could be magnetised or due to chance
SS -> Not magnetised
 

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