Complex Integral: Solving from Ln to ArcTan

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of the function 1/(1 + x^2) and the relationship between the natural logarithm of complex numbers and the arctangent function. Participants explore the implications of using complex analysis techniques, particularly focusing on how to transition from logarithmic forms to arctangent results.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to understand the natural logarithm of complex numbers and its relation to the integral of 1/(1 + x^2), noting that it can be expressed as arctan(x).
  • Another participant suggests that integrating 1/(1 + ix) leads to a result involving -iLn(1 + ix), prompting a comparison with the Taylor series of arctan(x).
  • A participant describes a method involving polar coordinates and the logarithm of a complex number, attempting to derive a relationship between arctan and logarithmic expressions.
  • One participant reports confusion when applying a suggested method, leading to an unexpected result involving arctan and seeks clarification on their approach.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the relationship between arctan and logarithmic forms, indicating that different methods yield consistent results, although participants express varying levels of understanding and clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the methods or results, with some expressing confusion and others providing alternative approaches. Multiple competing views and interpretations of the integration process remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential issues with missing factors in integration steps and the dependence on specific forms of complex numbers. There are unresolved mathematical steps and differing interpretations of the relationships between the functions involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in complex analysis, integration techniques, and the connections between logarithmic and trigonometric functions may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi,

I'm doing the following as an exercise to try and get my head around complex numbers. Specifically, I need to understand what it means to take the natural log of a complex number and what it involves.

Say I wanted to integrate 1/ (1 +x^2) dx

I know this is arcTan(x).


I can also write the integral as dx / [ (1 + ix)(1 - ix) ], which can be solved with partial fractions to arrive at 0.5 Ln [(1 + ix) / (1 - ix) ].

Now it should follow that the 2 results are equivalent. How do I got from Ln to arctan? Any hints?

Mant Thanks for your help,
 
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sam2 said:
Hi,
I'm doing the following as an exercise to try and get my head around complex numbers. Specifically, I need to understand what it means to take the natural log of a complex number and what it involves.
Say I wanted to integrate 1/ (1 +x^2) dx
I know this is arcTan(x).
I can also write the integral as dx / [ (1 + ix)(1 - ix) ], which can be solved with partial fractions to arrive at 0.5 Ln [(1 + ix) / (1 - ix) ].
Now it should follow that the 2 results are equivalent. How do I got from Ln to arctan? Any hints?
Mant Thanks for your help,
\tan{x}=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{e^{ix}+e^{-ix}}
 
Looks like you missed a factor of -i of. When you integrate something like \frac{1}{1+ix}, you will get something like the result -iLn(1+ix). Now go and compare the Taylor Series of arctan(x) and your result :wink:
 
Gotcha.

Many thanks.
 
sam2 said:
How do I got from Ln to arctan? Any hints?

Sorry, LateX preview is not working for me.

Consider a complex number z = a + ib. In polar form, z = re^{i theta} with r = sqrt{a^2 + b^2} and theta = tan^(-1){b/a}. Now take |z| = r = 1, so b = sqrt{1 - a^2}. Take the ln of both sides of e{^i theta} = a + i sqrt{1 - a^2}.

i theta = ln(a + i sqrt{1 - a^2})

i tan^(-1){sqrt{1 - a^2}/a} = ln(a + i sqrt{1 - a^2})

i tan^(-1){x} = ln{a(1 + ix)}, where x = sqrt{1 - a^2}/a

Now invert the x equation to find a and you're home.

Regards,
George
 
Hi George,

Thanks for the reply but I am still stuck when I use your method. It makes perfect sense but I can't see where I am going wrong. I am doing the integral that I mentioned in my first post; but basically end up with the integral equal to tan^{-1} [ -2x/(1-x^2) ] Sorry, latex doesn't seem to be working for me!

A brief outline:

I re-write the integral as

dx / (1-ix)(1+ix)

Using partial fractions this comes up to:

0.5/(1-ix) dx + 0.5/(1+ix) dx

I do the integral,

0.5.i. Ln[(1-ix) / (1+ix)]

then write everything as r.e^{i.theta} . r turns out to be 1 as your mentioned in yoru post, but I end up with something like

-0.5 arctan{ -2x/(1-x^2) }

Can you sugegst where I might be going wrong?

Thanks,
 
George Jones said:
i tan^(-1){x} = ln{a(1 + ix)}, where x = sqrt{1 - a^2}/a

Squaring the second equation gives

a^2 x^2 = 1 - a^2

a^2 (1 + x^2) = 1

a^2 (1 +ix)(1 -ix) = 1

a = [(1 +ix)(1 -ix)](-1/2)

Using this in the first equation above gives

i tan^(-1){x} = ln{[(1 +ix)(1 -ix)](-1/2) (1 + ix)}

i tan^(-1){x} = ln{[(1 + ix)/(1 - ix)]^(1/2)}

i tan^(-1){x} = 1/2 ln{(1 + ix)/(1 - ix)}

tan^(-1)(x} = -i/2 ln{(1 + ix)/(1 - ix)}

tan^(-1)(x} = i/2 ln{(1 - ix)/(1 + ix)}

This is the same result as yours, but achieved without integration, i.e., the 2 different methods give consistent results.

Regards,
George
 
much appreciated
 

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