1-d Time Independent Schrodinger Equation Problem

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The problem involves a particle of mass m and energy E moving through a defined potential landscape, specifically focusing on the time-independent Schrödinger equation. The potential is piecewise defined across three regions, and the task includes writing the Schrödinger equation and its solutions in each region, establishing boundary conditions, and analyzing wave intensities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the Schrödinger equation and its solutions using complex exponentials. There is uncertainty regarding the boundary conditions and the implications of the potential being undefined outside certain regions. Some participants explore the implications of incoming and outgoing waves at the boundaries and question the number of undetermined coefficients involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify boundary conditions and the setup of the problem. Some have proposed specific approaches to simplify the analysis, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the potential and the nature of the waves involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of information regarding the potential for x < -b, and participants are considering the implications of this missing information on their solutions. The original poster expresses confusion about the boundary conditions and the number of coefficients, leading to further exploration of these aspects.

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m and energy E, where E >V1 >V2 travels to the right in a potential defined as

V(x) = V1 for - b < x < 0

V(x) = 0 for 0 < x < a

V(x) = V2 for a < x < b

(a) Write down the time-independent Schrödinger eq. and its general solution in each region. Use complex exponential notation.
(b) Write down the boundary conditions which fix the undetermined constants in the solution of part (a).
(c) Eliminate from those eqs. The normalization for the wave in region 3 and calculate the ratio of intensities of waves traveling to the left and to the right in region number 2.



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The Attempt at a Solution


I really have no idea what I am doing. After writing the solutions as
ψ(x) = A*exp(ikx) + B*exp(-ikx) with appropriate k for each of the 3 situations,
I just cannot solve for the undetermined coefficients (and I've been doing this for the last 3 hours -_-). So yea, I'm completely lost.

EDIT: Boundary Conditions are
1)A$_{1}$e$^{-ik$_{1}$b}$ + B$_{1}$e$^{ik$_{1}$b}$ = 0
2)A$_{1}$ + B$_{1}$ = A$_{2}$ + B$_{2}$
3)k$_{1}$(A$_{1}$ - B$_{1}$) = k$_{2}$(A$_{2}$ - B$_{2}$)
4)A$_{2}$e$^{ik$_{2}$b}$ + B$_{2}$e$^{-ik$_{2}$b}$ = A$_{3}$e$^{ik$_{3}$b}$ + A$_{3}$e$^{-ik$_{3}$b}$
5)k$_{2}$(A$_{2}$e$^{ik$_{2}$b}$ - B$_{2}$e$^{-ik$_{2}$b}$) = k$_{3}$(A$_{3}$e$^{ik$_{3}$b}$ - B$_{3}$e$^{-ik$_{3}$b}$)
6)A$_{3}$e$^{ik$_{3}$b}$ + B$_{3}$e$^{-ik$_{3}$b}$ = 0

Look right to u guys?
 
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the potential is not specified in all space... for the first line describing the potential you wrote down, is the "-b" supposed to be a negative infinity? otherwise, what is the for of the potential for x<-b
?
 
It's not specified for all space, just a certain region, so b and -b is just any random number basically.
 
okay... so then continue with your solution attempt. what boundary conditions are you going to use.
 
Oh wow hold on that post just made me realize I left out 2 boundary conditions :-P (silly me)
 
I can't read the correction you made to your original post but the problem only makes sense to me if there is an incoming particle (wave actually) from the left, a step in potential at x=0 and another one at x=a. Then there is a reflection at the first boundary, a middle zone with waves going both ways, and a transmitted beam at the second boundary.

I think you already have expressions for the waves, which is to say their k numbers, based on the three potentials. So there are 5 undetermined coefficients, in general complex, for the wave amplitudes.

However, as I see it, it gets a lot simpler when you consider what they are asking for: just the ratio between the left- and right- propagating waves in the middle zone. Let's take the outgoing wave in zone 3 to have unit amplitude; in fact, make the wave number something simple like 1 so it is just:

exp(ikx - wt)

(of course we won't worry to much about the wt).

Then you just need to match up the waves in zone 2, let's give them a wave number like 3 or something:

Aexp(i3x) + Bexp(-i3x)

And I believe the boundary condition is that both the amplitudes and their derivatives have to match up at the transition. With the arbitrary numbers I put in above, I can solve pretty easily: I get A + B = 1 for the amplitudes, and 3A - 3B = 1 for the derivatives.

So it seems I can solve the problem as stated without even worrying about what happened at the first boundary, with the incoming particle. Does this look right?

Marty
 
how did u have only 5 undetermined coefficients, not 6?
 
Because if the wave starts from the left, then in region 3 there is no left-moving (incoming) wave, only the outgoing one which I arbitrarily assigned a unit amplitude.
 
I guess that would work, I just wasnt sure that there was not in fact some other potential past alpha, granted we are not told anything about it, so I guess you can take away the incoming wave.
 

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