2 blocks connected by massless string VS. pulley system

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The discussion centers on analyzing the dynamics of two blocks of different masses connected by a massless string, comparing it to a pulley system. When pulling Block A and Block B with opposing forces, the system accelerates at approximately 8.018 m/s², with a net force of 882 N. Tension calculations reveal that the internal tensions in the strings connected to each block remain consistent regardless of whether the system is horizontal or draped over a pulley. The conclusion is that if the internal string is placed over a pulley, the system would still accelerate downward at the same rate, influenced by the mass of the blocks. The analysis confirms the relationship between the forces and tensions in both configurations.
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(Note: The title would better describe the subject if written like this:

"2 blocks on a horizontal frictionless surface connected by a massless string vs. pulley system")Hello, I have a problem regarding pulling two blocks of different masses connected by a string horizontally with opposing forces and evaluating the tension. Then, I would like to find out if this problem is set in such a way that it is analogous to two blocks on a pulley.

1. Homework Statement
If you pull to the left with a force such that if Block A were an isolated mass, it would accelerate 9.8m/s^2 ..and you pull to the right of Block B with such a force that if Block B were an isolated mass, it would accelerate 9.8m/s^2.

Note: Let mass of block 1 be A and mass of block 2 be B. So m1 = A and m2 = B.

Question 1: In what direction would the system accelerate?

Question 2: What is the net force of the system?

Question 3: What is the acceleration of the system?

Question 4: What would be the tension in the massless cable connected to:
1. the internal portion of A (T1 on to m1)
2. the internal portion of B (T1 on to m2)

Question 5:
If you were to take the internal cable of this system and drape it over a pull, with Block A hanging down on the left side of the pulley and Block B hanging down on the right side of the pulley, would your values for tension change?

Homework Equations



F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution

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Answer 1
Then the block B would require more force:

FA = [A(a) = 10kg(9.8m/s^2) = 98N] < FB = [B(a) = 100kg(9.8m/s^2) = 980N]

Answer 2
So the net force on the system would be Fnet = FA + FB = B(a) - A(a) = 980N - 98N = 882N

Answer 3
The acceleration would be F/(A+B) = 882N/110kg = 8.0181m/s^2

Answer 4

For Tensions,

First establish net force of each block:

Fnet_A = A(a) = 10kg(8.018m/s^2) = 80.18N
Fnet_B = B(a) = 100kg(8.018m/s^2) = 801.81N,

Then Tension in strings are:

Tension of left most string on Block A

FA = 10kg(9.8m/s^2) = 98N = T1/A

Tension of internal string on Block A

FA = T2/A - T1/A ==> T2/A = F1 + T1/A = A(a2) + A(a1) = A(a2+a1) = 10kg(9.8+8.018) = 178.18N

Tension of internal string on Block B

FB = T3/B - T2/B ==> T2/B = T3/B - F2 = B(a1) - B(a2) = B(a1 - a2) = 100kg(9.8 - 8.018) = 178.2N

Tension of right most string on Block B

FB = 100kg(9.8m/s^2) = 980N = T3/B

Question 5

I think that if you were to drape the internal string over a pulley, the tensions in the string would remain exactly the same because gravity, at 9.8m/s^2, would be pulling on each box just as the blocks are being pulled from opposite directions horizontally.

Thank you
 

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That all looks good to me.
 
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Great! Thank you. So it would be true that if you put the string on a pulley with the same masses, the system of blocks would accelerate downward at 8.018m/s^2 on the side of the pulley with the bigger block?
 
Ocata said:
Great! Thank you. So it would be true that if you put the string on a pulley with the same masses, the system of blocks would accelerate downward at 8.018m/s^2 on the side of the pulley with the bigger block?
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haruspex said:
Yes.

Thank you
 
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