2 blocks on top of each other, applied force, friction, and tension

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The discussion centers on calculating the tension in a string tied to a 4.32 kg block placed on top of a 9.16 kg block, with a horizontal force of 66.6 N applied to the lower block. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the surfaces is 0.169, and the gravitational acceleration is 9.8 m/s². The correct tension in the string is determined to be 7.155 N after analyzing the forces acting on the upper block, specifically focusing on the normal force and friction rather than the applied force on the lower block.

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Homework Statement


A 4.32 kg block is placed on top of a 9.16 kg
block. A horizontal force of F = 66.6 N is
applied to the 9.16 kg block, and the 4.32 kg
block is tied to the wall. The coefficient of
kinetic friction between all moving surfaces
is 0.169. There is friction both between the
masses and between the 9.16 kg block and the
ground.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2.
Determine Tension of string in N

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Homework Equations


ƩF = ma
fs = μk*FN


The Attempt at a Solution


(see attachment for free body diagrams)
ƩF = ma
m = 4.32 kg
atop block = 0
ƩF = Fapplied - fk - T
0 = (44.274) - (7.155) - T
T = 44.274 - 7.155
T = 37.119

Apparently I did something wrong somewhere, but I'm not sure where.
 

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What forces act on the upper block? (I don't understand your FBDs.)
 
Well maybe it isn't supposed to be there, but I was thinking that since the bottom block has a force in that direction that is not completely canceled out by friction, it would cause the top block to have a force as well, which is equal to Fapplied (to the bottom block) - fk
 
TFOrange said:
Well maybe it isn't supposed to be there, but I was thinking that since the bottom block has a force in that direction that is not completely canceled out by friction, it would cause the top block to have a force as well, which is equal to Fapplied (to the bottom block) - fk
That applied force acts on the bottom block, not on the top block. So it doesn't belong in your analysis of the top block. The only influence that the bottom block exerts on the top block is through the normal force and friction.
 
Oh! so T = f
and so it's T = 7.155
Thanks!
 
TFOrange said:
Oh! so T = f
and so it's T = 7.155
Yep!
 

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